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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Emma Date: September 4, 2013, 2:32 pm
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       Hi all. And by that i mean all 4 of you. :p
       Very confused about everything., really so been thinking about
       things the last few days. I thought Tennis Frontier was safe and
       we were meant to be there forever but how quickly things change,
       don't they? There's so much I want to say but unfortunately I am
       just back from the eye doctor and she's given me eye drops, so
       things are still blurry for me. Can barely read things let alone
       type a post.
       So in a nutshell, I really like Owen and his forum; however,
       things felt really tight and controlled lately and while I agree
       that every new forum needs to go through a lot experience before
       they come to realize how it should uphold its reputation, I am
       not sure if I have time for that. I need freedom from the get
       go. I told him just last week in a PM that I was really getting
       tired of being on new forums, because this also means having to
       adjust all their new rules and their posters, who can be quite
       judgmental btw and it does take a lot of time to overcome that
       and establish yourself as a good and reliable poster. Also, this
       is happening during USO and despite Andy's marvelous win at
       Wimbledon, I had a nasty experience at T4U (as you all know) as
       soon as I came back to the forum, so once again  I've become
       very unsure of things but more importantly, I so need to focus
       on Andy during this time that I really and truly cannot go
       through all this drama.
       So I am still very confused and basically waiting for the USO to
       be over so that I can finally decide as to what to do. Should I
       stay or should I leave the forum thing all behind me.
       I had it all very well said in my head really but I think that
       ^^ came out a bit scattered.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Emma Date: September 4, 2013, 3:00 pm
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       herc or Slasher, is it possible to have the left column (where
       it has the Members, Stats, Users etc.) across the board at the
       top of page? That way we don't have to scroll right and also, it
       would look nice and neat. Isn't that the way other forums are?
       Anyway, I am not sure if I should be demanding so much on my 2nd
       post here. :p
       herc, I got your PM last night  but since I thought I was going
       to be here today, so I'd reply here. As to the first one, I was
       thinking about things and also wanted to see where things were
       going as it all seemed quite unsettled. I believe you could have
       handled the matter better but at the same time, I could also see
       why you'd be so angry. There's no point making you and Javi the
       mod and not give you any real power. that really and truly
       defeats the purpose. Also, that meant they didn't trust you
       enough. And the deal they offered later after all hooplas had
       the freedom of much less moderation but it came at the expense
       of the Castle taking a backseat and that didn't make any sense.
       They could have left it at the front page and called it Frontier
       Castle Chat or something. That way they could have maintained
       their own brand and the Castle would have had its own identity.
       The idea of a Castle is a very open and it needs all its freedom
       to fully exercise its all possibilities but unfortunately, it
       just wasn't there from the get go. I wish Owen could see that
       and had a better conversation with both tented and Moxie. That
       way I am sure we would have all had something that would have
       made everyone happy. But alas, that probably wasn't meant to be.
       I was personally very disturbed when Slasher's post re: a
       poster's death at MTF got deleted. I was quoting his post  at
       that time to show my condolences, but I couldn't do it only to
       realize a minute later that the original post was deleted right
       away. That felt inhuman. How can you not allow the news of a
       poster who had just died? There are some things in life where
       the news should be spread right away so that we cal all show our
       respect and this news was one of them. I found it as extreme
       moderation almost cult like. However I don't feel at all either
       Owen or tented are mean spirited people or anything; quite the
       contrary in fact, but it just came out in dead wrong manner.
       Yes, we have rules that we need to obey but we are also human
       beings so we should know better as to how to use our discretion.
       In any case, I don't have any bitter feelings towards anyone or
       anything. I just later thought it was never meant to be and
       sounded too good to be true from the start. We all still have a
       lot to learn.
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       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 3:01 pm
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       good to see you Emma.
       at last we are at a place which belongs to us.
       now nobody can tell us what to do or what to talk about and what
       not to talk about.
       baron and I get along fine. it's all his global mods who do not
       care about us.
       and his 2 partners were tugging at him constantly.
       in the end he sided with tented and moxie.
       they want total and complete control and they want run their
       forum like church.
       they even went so far as to remove me and javi from mod
       positions at the castle.
       we did absolutely nothing wrong at the castle. they fucked it up
       with their constant meddling.
       I guess they were insecure and scared of our success there.
       not sure what the best course of action is right now.
       at least we are safe here and we are the owners of Camelot.
       now we don't have orders from anybody.
       we have a little place to stay in touch anyway.
       and we will ban any trolls permanently instantly.
       I am out on the road right now. It is hard to post with I phone.
       anyway Andy started out slow yesterday but got going eventually.
       #Post#: 67--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 3:08 pm
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       Baron and I are still friends lady emma.
       we need to let some time pass. we could still work out some sort
       of compromise.
       he said I was welcome to post there.
       general slasher or general August might be help with your
       request.
       I can't do much with a I phone.
       anyway I will be home in 2-3 hours.
       I will try to answer your post better when I get home.
       #Post#: 68--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Emma Date: September 4, 2013, 3:26 pm
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       No worries about replying if you are still on the road. You are
       so much on the road sometimes I think of you as door to door
       sales person. LOLz. I am teasing you!
       But did you know? There was a time I really thought Swish was a
       door to door vitamin sales person. lol. Nothing wrong with that
       but I just found it really funny. He'd just post vitamin stuff
       all the time so it had made me wonder about things. lol.
       Good match, this Ferru vs Richie but I am pulling for Richie
       without a doubt.
       None of us are bad, herc be it you or I or tented or Owen etc.
       It's just that the matter was handled in a very wrong way and
       not in timely fashion either, unfortunately. All they needed to
       do is just relax the rules a lot as we are all grown ups after
       all minus Alex. lol. They could have still kept the rules they
       have now and let the Castle flow. it was such a minor adjustment
       and yet, it never got done the proper way. And you couldn't just
       wait and be patient so I have a beef with you too, mind you.
       Next time, I want you to speak to the Mod you are most friendly
       with (in this case it was BB) if that ever happens again. So
       that's something you really badly need to adjust. You are going
       to promise that to all of us.
       #Post#: 70--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 4:16 pm
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       I have agree with you Emma.
       it is a good learning experience for all of us.
       it's all part of growing up and learning from our mistakes.
       at least we tried. failure consists only in no longer trying.
       there is a very old Chinese proverb: fall down 7 times, stand up
       eight.
       #Post#: 71--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 4:19 pm
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       Emma your avi rocks.
       I am still not home. I will be home in about 90 minutes.
       #Post#: 72--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 4:27 pm
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       gasquet gets by ferru. this is huge for gasquet.
       is this the best he has ever done at the u. s. open?
       #Post#: 73--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: freak3yman84 Date: September 4, 2013, 6:27 pm
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       Hola General, I have arrived :D
       #Post#: 74--------------------------------------------------
       Re: CAMELOT
       By: Clay Death Date: September 4, 2013, 6:34 pm
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       vamosssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss general
       freakygoat.
       congrats mate. you are now a global mod.
       a global mod not only here but also at our next pricey,
       commercial capable forum. that is 9 months away.
       advertising will pay for our next forum general freaky.
       and we will make sure we get paid too.
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