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       #Post#: 4555--------------------------------------------------
       Surface Slants: Clay Champions, Commoners, and the Clueless
   DIR By: masterclass
       Date: December 1, 2013, 7:52 am
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       Reflect on tennis' players play on the dirt from the sublime to
       the dregs.
       Who have been the best? The worst? Or just pick any player you
       like to talk about.
       Enjoy!
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       #Post#: 4562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Surface Slants: Clay Champions, Commoners, and the Clueless
   DIR By: Clay Death
       Date: December 1, 2013, 8:10 am
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       guys I will be able to add more later.
       I am just now waking up. and now I have to get ready to go out
       for a little bit.
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       Re: Surface Slants: Clay Champions, Commoners, and the Clueless
   DIR By: Clay Death
       Date: December 4, 2013, 11:22 pm
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       first a list of the most capable on clay:
       1. borg
       2. lendl
       3. vilas
       4. orantes
       5. kueten
       6. bruguera
       7. Ferrero
       8. nadal
       9. muster
       **these are in no particular order
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       Re: Surface Slants: Clay Champions, Commoners, and the Clueless
   DIR By: masterclass
       Date: December 5, 2013, 2:12 am
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       Fine list General.
       I would have to add Mats Wilander to that list.  3 titles at
       Roland Garros and I think 20 titles overall on clay.
       I would also add Ken Rosewall.  He had 2 French Open titles - 1
       as an amateur, and 1 at the start of the open Era as a
       professional, but he also won the French Pro championship 4
       times at Roland Garros as a professional when locked out of the
       amateur Slams.
       Did you know that Rosewall, who turned 34 at the start of the
       Open Era in 1968, went on to win 44 singles titles from that
       point to the end of his career (inc. 2 titles in 1977 at the age
       of 43)?  I believe he had a total of 35 singles titles on clay.
       6 as an amateur, 15 as a professional, and 14 in the Open Era.
       Not bad for a guy 1.7 meters tall (5' 7") and only 67 kg (145
       lb), who, according to Richard "Pancho" Gonzales, had a weak
       serve and a weak forehand.  But he had probably one of the
       greatest backhands of all time.  Rosewall was naturally left
       handed but played tennis right handed.
       Respectfully,
       masterclass
       #Post#: 4983--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Surface Slants: Clay Champions, Commoners, and the Clueless
   DIR By: Clay Death
       Date: December 5, 2013, 2:31 pm
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       wow. that is excellent information general masterclass.
       I was not fully aware of his prowess on clay.
       muscles must have been really something.
       5 foot 7 and playing with a small wooden racquet that had a
       sweet spot the size of a dime.
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