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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: October 28, 2013, 4:41 am
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What can I say, it's very interesting to have this conversation.
My advice now would be not to force anything, try to let things
go as naturally as possible. Don't try to make any sudden
changes, just adapt with the new information you obtained and in
time you will see progress. I have my own obstacles, some
repeating dreams which are a puzzle and are totally
uncontrollable no matter what I try to do. So, I can't say I
have the answers. I am targeting OBE as well, it may be the most
interesting experience in the universe, but not only is a OBE a
lucid dream, it's a vivid relocation of the mind, which
scientists are puzzled about it being totally produced in our
mind or not. To actively produce one is to use detail to unlock
one door into our mind, then let loose at everything that is
there. Scientifically, I think it means that the brain has some
pieces composed of exotic matter and unlocking this potential
means causing the mind to become unstuck in space time (more
like a M-theory concept), sending your consciousness across a
border which is currently limiting our body. I've read a lot of
information on this one, and I still think I have many things to
learn to get there, and I sincerely hope a lifetime is enough.
Who knows. ;D
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 30, 2013, 6:35 pm
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Dreams, OBEs, NDEs, paranormal etc. are all independent of the
brain; in fact, has nothing to do with the brain. Brain is your
biological machine that the mind uses to reach out to the
physical universe and need the physical aspect to function as
well. Mind itself exits independent of the physical world and
exists out of spacetime. Quantum mechanics will tell you that.
Mainstream science is misleading. Current model cannot explain
many things and won't be able to main things ever. because
traditional science relies on data, measurement etc. The unseen
universe works on a very different level. Mainstream science is
only good for every day thing.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: October 31, 2013, 2:56 am
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Exotic matter and M-theory is not mainstream science. And the
entire brain is not known. Part of it is inside the "unseen
universe". ;)
#Post#: 2189--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: November 1, 2013, 8:13 pm
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I am not sure how you mean. By 'unseen universe' I don't mean
something still out there and not seen. I mean going inward. We
live in a multidimensional Universe and we are multidimensional
beings. Things materialize and de-materialize all the time. We
are just not that advanced to be aware of it. Since the material
Universe is a highly complex matter, it needs a very complex
brain, a tool as in, to explore it but a brain is nothing more
than that. A complex vehicle that mind uses in the physical
world. This physical body is not needed in other realities.
since they are not 'out there'. There's nothing 'out there'
that's not 'in here' first.
Things actually don't materialize unless an Observer looks at
it. They all exist as wave functions of endless possibilities
and it's the Observer who chooses to collapse some of these
possibilities to actuality in order to experience what it
desires. What we see is the emerging level - the final result.
Everything is decided at that fundamental level and that's why
people don't even realize that they have already decided or
reacted on things even before they know it. Human brain is too
slow for that kind of information. This Observer is your
non-local entity, as in, it doesn't use anything to connect. It
is not an energy but beyond that. It uses energies to create
matter but it's own existence is non-local and fundamental.
There are many realities out there created by thoughts or say,
by the Observer; physical reality is only one of them. To
experience all others, one needs to go inward.
Anyway, I am actually not all that interested in lucid dreams;
they are still sort of out of body experience but only, you are
not as conscious as you are in 'real life'. In OBEs, you are
fully conscious; that's why these experiences are very different
than lucid dreams. They change people's life and change them
forever. Lucid dreams have no real impact on people as they
still feel they are only 'dreaming'. I have first hand
experience of having OBEs though that happened a few years ago,
but it has changed my life for one.
Truth be told, science has no clue as to why we sleep or dream
or what happens to our consciousness when we sleep.
You can't define or measure a subjective reality with an
objective model. If science does intend to do that then that
would be an intellectually dense attempt. In other words, in
order to test the subjective world, you need a subjective model.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: November 2, 2013, 11:10 am
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I did mean to add one more thing - thoughts are energies but
perhaps a lot of people know that or I expect them to know that.
So thru thoughts or energies, matters are created. So basically
a thought has to exist first for matters to be created next.
What was there before the Big Bang for example. How did it come
into place etc. In other words, you won't be able to build a
castle or anything for that matter, if you didn't think of it
first. Once the thought is there, energy will follow. And every
thing has a meaning and purpose - even a door - because when you
make it, you intend it for it to do its job; that is, to open
and close and keep you secure.
So this is how it goes at the fundamental level: Consciousness
>>> thoughts >>> energies >>> matters, as in the emerging worlds
- both seen and unseen. Only Consciousness is not created as it
has always existed. Everything else including us, souls, has
been created by the creator. Only Creator is uncreated.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: November 11, 2013, 6:34 pm
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herc, would you be able to change the name of this thread to
'Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal'?
I couldn't do it so I am asking you. Thanks!
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Re: Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: November 13, 2013, 1:42 am
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Done, Emma.
Sorry, no time to answer to your previous posts for now. I will
return. ;D
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Re: Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal
DIR By: Emma
Date: November 13, 2013, 6:30 pm
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Thanks Slasher! And long time no see.
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Re: Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal
DIR By: thetruth
Date: November 22, 2013, 5:07 pm
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Slasher1985,
This is fascinating stuff. I've long been interested in my
dreams, but I've often stopped and started over and over.
I'm going to make a copy of this and peruse it at my leisure,
because it was a lot of information.
What shocked me was how sleep order can affect your ability to
dream.
The only time I remember my dreams is if I do get up and write
it down, but I never thought about lying there and keeping my
eyes closed to allow the dream to marinate before recording it.
I had a period during the last four years where I was actively
dreaming, and even stranger, remembering these dreams and
recording them.
Then, the period passed and I forgot all about it.
I'm glad you guys brought this back to my remembrance. You guys
are so evolved. I am learning so much more than about tennis
here.
I am so glad I came over here. I am spoiled already.
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Re: Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal
DIR By: thetruth
Date: November 22, 2013, 5:19 pm
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--- Quote from: Emma link ---
>
> However, one time I was crossing this building and I noticed
for the first time that there were some very strong pillars in
front of it. It was probably part of the building design I
suppose. What bothered me was the fact that I couldn't tell for
the life me if they were always there. I thought they were
never there and I thought it was the first time I was seeing
these pillars in the real world, but they couldn't have made it
overnight. That's virtually impossible. And I walk that street
every day, so how could I not notice those before? It then
begged the question, was I dreaming the same street without the
pillars then? Possibly. Or did I just simply not notice these
before? So there are things like that happen to me sometimes. On
one hand, I am extremely detail oriented; on another, I don't
notice it if there's an elephant in the room. Or perhaps my
dream state might just be overlapping my real world at times. In
any case, it's very interesting to say the least.
>
--- End Quote ---
I have experiences like this, too. I also feel that I can be
extremely detailed oriented, but at other times, I won't notice
something that is blatantly obvious. I've never heard anyone
else admit to this, so it was good to hear.
I've often attributed this to the fact that my mind is
constantly busy and I am always thinking of both future,
present, and past things. So, much so that I often miss tangible
things that are right in my face.
Interesting thread.
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