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Dreams, OBEs, NDEs and the Paranormal
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 17, 2013, 11:29 am
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This is one of my all time favourite subjects. Those who don't
understand the concept of it or how it all works or what do they
truly mean, please stay away you, materialist stupid simpletons.
lolol
So do you dream? Of course you do. But do you want to share
those strange and yet haunting dreams? Maybe we can all share
and learn something from each others dreams - even from the
simplest dream. Know, they are not always about your every day
life; however, they have connection to your life in general - by
that I mean you are so much more than your every day life on
earth. There are, in fact, three kinds of dreams, but I will go
into detail as I go. For now, it should stay all mysterious and
suspenseful, no? yes.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: October 17, 2013, 11:42 am
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I dream, and I have mastered the rare art of controlling my
dreams, the holy grail known as "lucid dreaming". One of my
favorite subject is dreams, I have always been fascinated with
them. So, I started the path to lucid dreaming a few years back.
It takes a long while to master it, but now I have the power to
turn a nightmare into a heroic dream of flying and telekinetic
abilities. ;D
My favorite way to induce a lucid dream is to call a false
awakening and use the differences I have repeatedly introduced
into my memory to a real awakening. I now know when an awakening
is false and thus, I know that I am dreaming.
Tell me if you wanna know more. I'm gonna continue when I have
the time. ;D
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Clay Death
Date: October 17, 2013, 5:15 pm
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I thought it was difficult to remember dreams but evidently it
did not apply to me.
I used to have some crazy dreams when I was a kid. I do remember
some of them.
they all had a strange theme: either I was about to fall off the
edge of the mountain or I was cycling on the edge of the
mountain and about to topple over to a 1000 foot death drop.
strange stuff. I don't have such dreams anymore.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 19, 2013, 9:58 am
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--- Quote from: Slasher1985 link ---
>
> I dream, and I have mastered the rare art of controlling my
dreams, the holy grail known as "lucid dreaming". One of my
favorite subject is dreams, I have always been fascinated with
them. So, I started the path to lucid dreaming a few years back.
It takes a long while to master it, but now I have the power to
turn a nightmare into a heroic dream of flying and telekinetic
abilities. ;D
>
> My favorite way to induce a lucid dream is to call a false
awakening and use the differences I have repeatedly introduced
into my memory to a real awakening. I now know when an awakening
is false and thus, I know that I am dreaming.
>
> Tell me if you wanna know more. I'm gonna continue when I have
the time. ;D
>
--- End Quote ---
That's a great post, Slasher. Just the kind I was looking for.
Seems like this is going to be a great thread. I haven't
mastered controlling my dreams yet. Every time I am on verge of
realizing that I might be dreaming, I wake up. So I am unable to
manipulate my dreams because I can't continue. Another thing
that's holding me back is my fear of the great unknown - as I am
trying to go beyond the lucid dream part and perhaps, experience
something greater. I do have this spontaneous thing going on but
I am just too scared to go through it, so I do everything to
wake up. So I think my first step should be just to master my
dreams first - like you do if you can guide me how to do it.
Also, in dreams, I am constantly in the future and sometimes
perhaps in parallel dimension or other dimension. Those are not
all too bad; in fact, some them are really great. I've only had
nightmares when I had to take a sleeping pill or allergy pills
that make you drowsy. Alcohol does the same so I try to stay
away from all these substances. Drugs have been always a very
big no no for me. Interestingly enough, the nightmares always
happen the following nights.
I have another interesting thing happening from time to time and
I have yet to figure it out. I don't know why it happens or what
its meaning. I've read so many things about dreams and this
piece I have yet to come across.
Btw, I don't take dreams as just dreams. To me they are so much
more than that.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 19, 2013, 10:00 am
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--- Quote from: Clay Death link ---
>
> I thought it was difficult to remember dreams but evidently it
did not apply to me.
>
>
> I used to have some crazy dreams when I was a kid. I do
remember some of them.
>
> they all had a strange theme: either I was about to fall off
the edge of the mountain or I was cycling on the edge of the
mountain and about to topple over to a 1000 foot death drop.
>
>
> strange stuff. I don't have such dreams anymore.
>
--- End Quote ---
Are you saying you don't dream at all these days, herc? That's
not possible, you know? You just simply don't remember them as
you are probably a deep sleeper. Also, if you take alcohol every
evening, you are unlikely to remember any of your dreams.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: October 19, 2013, 2:49 pm
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Alcohol or any substance for that matter is a no-go. Try staying
away from coffee 12 hours before sleep as well as energy drinks
or coca cola/pepsi/mountain dew. Those will always interfere
with the crystal image you want to have.
There are 5 steps in my book:
1. Sleep order
2. Creating a symbol
3. Dream remembering
4. Consciousness training
5. Lucid training
The first 3 are basically the most important ingredients ever.
1. Sleep order
One cannot truly master the dreamland with a chaotic sleeping
program. If you go to sleep at diverse hours every night, your
deep sleep phase will not always coincide with the right time of
night in order to produce memorable dreams (these are the dreams
you need to have). I bet that you already have an order here,
Lady Emma, otherwise you wouldn't be so passionate about dreams.
Fact is that once sleep is in order you always get a good night
sleep and remember your dreams in more than 75% of cases.
2. Creating a symbol
This is a direction. You must train your mind to focus on
symbols you enjoy most in your life. The symbols can be anything
from your daily life, from a special cup you drink with to your
boss's suit. My symbol is the light bulb to be honest. Whenever
a light bulb is on, I look at it carefully and notice all the
details it possesses. That's the key here. If you can remember
all the details of your favorite object and you encounter it in
a dream, it will always lack some elements, which will trigger
your mind to realize it is dreaming. The weird part about a
light bulb is that in a dream state it won't make your eyes see
a bright spot after you look at it. You must train yourself with
your symbol, always admire it while being awake. The more you
see of it, the more chance there is it will also appear in one
of your dreams (no matter if your dream land is a parallel
universe).
3. Dream remembering
The key to lucid dreams is memory. If the memory is faulty, you
cannot enter a lucid dream without waking up. Remembering your
dreams sets your mind at ease and creates pattern essential to
remembering the world you've dreamed before. The dream world is
usually episodic, so you get to remember stuff in dreams from a
previous dream because they happened in the same place (which
doesn't exist in the real world). For instance, I once had a
3-part dream about a train ride through Russia. The dreams
happened on different nights, and my memory was playing tricks
in the real world, but all was so clear while dreaming. This is
what you must correct. Remembering the dream in the real world
as well will enrich your dream world, because imagination will
enrich the image you remember with new stuff all the time, so
that, when you are in the same place again, the dream world will
have enough detail to keep you lucid. Lucid dreaming is detail,
without detail it falls apart, either you go back to deep
sleeping, or you wake up.
So, remember the dreams each time you wake up. Repeat them in
your head, try re-seeing the images. The brain usually lets go
of a dream really fast, so you must concentrate immediately
after waking up to keep the memories intact and repeat them
enough to remember them later. Do that every time you wake up,
either be in the morning or in the middle of the night.
4. Awareness training
Now comes the hard part. We, as a race are usually busy and in a
hurry all day long, getting from A to B. With more attention, we
can actually remember more details of what we see around us. So,
a key to lucid dreaming is to always be aware of your
surroundings. Remember places, objects you saw, cars that flew
by, people. They will reappear in most of your dreams. But if
you train your mind to be aware, it inherits the ability to see
more in detail, and any dream will demand more complexity as the
brain will get used to being more aware. Now, every once in a
while, you must create a "dream test", which should be anything
you can think of that happens only in dreams:
a. open a book (the perfect dream test) - if you do this often
to check up if you're dreaming in the real world, your brain
will get used to doing it in the dream world.
b. turn on/off a light (also perfect) - I can do this with my
mind in a dream. If I fail to do it, I know for sure I am not
dreaming. But for once, you must try the button. If it fails to
work at least once, it is a dream (your mind will know). All
dark dreams have problems with lights, you probably know this
already, but you must let your brain train for it in the real
world, so that the idea is born while you dream.
c. look in the mirror. This is the scariest test you can do
because in 90% of cases, there will be someone else in the
mirror, or nobody at all, or your face will look different. Do
this often in the real world. While in darkness, look in the
mirror. When I was 12, I had a nightmare that started just like
that. I looked in the mirror and I saw a monster, a sound
started right away and all lights went dead, then something
grabbed me. The scariest dream I ever had is always in my head,
and I know just what to do to stop it if it happens now, because
I trained my mind. Be warned, if you're unprepared, this 'c'
won't make you realize you're dreaming, it may either cause a
nightmare or wake you up.
d. open a closed door. In a dream, what you'll find on the other
side will always be different to what you expect for some
reason. If you repeat this to the same door, your mind will know
the result from the real world, and it will click that you're
dreaming.
e. the special thing. You can use your own custom dream test.
For instance, I used a dream test featuring my wife not being in
bed right near me. In a dream world, nobody was there, which
would have been impossible.
Your awareness will not grow over night. You need years to get
to a level which will benefit you. But you don't have to be too
preoccupied with it. You also need to be relaxed to allow your
mind to dig new information all the time.
And now, the piece of resistance:
5. Lucid training
As your awareness grows, it is essential to know what to do once
lucid dreams start appearing. Don't do anything crazy at first.
You must know one crucial stuff first: sleep paralysis. It can
happen that you have a false awakening. What you must do when
you wake up in the middle of the night is not open your eyes.
Let your mind drift, count to 10, don't concentrate on anything
but the dream you had. Many times, you're not really awake,
you're still dreaming, this is a false awakening that can put
you in a lucid dream instantly. You can now invoke sleep
paralysis to realize you're dreaming. If it's night and you're
lying in bed during this sleep paralysis, in 90% of cases you
won't be able to move. Train your mind to remember this stuff
and when it will happen, your mind will become lucid the second
you realize you can't move. And that's the miracle of lucid
dreaming, you will be able to move right away.
Now comes the training. A lucid dream taxes your mind, it can
make you tired in a flash or send you to active mode waking you
up. When you get too tired, you fall asleep. If you become too
lucid you wake up. You must try to keep concentrated and always
do something with your mind, like flying, telekinesis, turning
on the lights, jumping, etc. etc, but also know when to stop and
let yourself drift. These days I am training for teleportation
for instance, which has always awaken me because I concentrated
too much and drifted into and active mind state. Your
subconscious is active so the dream will also evolve by itself,
it is important to not interfere with the dream, as it will
fight you and defeat your lucid state (I am not kidding). I
really had strange people pop into my mind telling me to stop
what I'm doing and go to sleep. It's the most intriguing thing
ever.
Ah, but I've composed a book here. I should stop now. ;D
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 20, 2013, 7:47 pm
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Hi Slasher, awesome post! Looks like you really know your stuff.
There's a lot to discuss and take away from your post.
First of all, yes I do have the sleep order however, I feel now
perhaps I should cut down my caffeine intake after 10am.
Typically I don't drink coffee after 12noon but if I really
crave for it, I go for decaf. Now I am thinking I should stop at
10am. I don't drink pops or any kind of energy drinks so I am
covered in that sense. Alcohol is only occasional and most
times, red wine but still, perhaps I need to get rid of it
altogether. Never do drugs.
Now moving on to your second point, that is also covered but I
may have to change it. Right now, my brother who is no more is
my symbol but this is also causing me to wake up. For example. I
dreamt just last week I was meditating and my eyes were closed
and it was pitch dark. Then I saw something that seemed like a
deep purple light taking a form and I was very interested to see
what it was and was not afraid at all. When it was finally
taking a full shape, my brother woke me up and said I was crying
and screaming in my sleep so he had to wake me up. I thought
'okay, but I wasn't really crying or screaming in my dream so
why is he saying that I was?" Then I felt there was something
not right about it because as I continued to think about it,
suddenly I realized he's no more so how could he wake me up. And
that's when I really woke up. And there are other dreams like
that, where the moment I realize he's no more, the moment wake
up. I am just too emotionally attached to him so while it helps
to wake up in my dream to have a lucid one, it also wakes me up
here. So looks like I'll have to get another symbol where it
won't shock my system so much.
I can definitely remember some of the dreams forever but there
are some dreams I forget as soon as I wake up. The problem is,
because I am a light sleeper I tend to remember that I was
dreaming whole night in parts and I find it very hard to
remember all of it. One other problem is to go back to sleep
again after memorizing or repeating some of these dreams in my
head. So this is something I do in the morning after I wake up.
Whatever I can remember I put them into my memory bank for
future reference. My dreams are quite vivid and detail and very
different from each other, but other times, they can be pretty
vague. Sometimes I can't remember if I dreamt something or if it
happened in real life since they are so vivid and detail. And
there are these times when I feel I am in trance state where
nothing really touches me in my waking life, even though I can
fully do my job and fully aware of my surroundings - just not as
engaged. do you know what I mean? Does that happen to you?
I have a lot to take from No. 4. I don't think that is fully
covered. Definitely need more awareness training. I don't think
I'll be comfortable doing example c. I am fairly sure I'll see
something else so I will avoid it for now. Perhaps once I get
more brave and comfortable. I liked example d. And a and b.
As to No. 5. I do have sleep paralysis. It happens spontaneously
however but especially when I am stressed out. Last time I had
it only two months ago. I do freak out a great deal though I am
trying to be very brave about it lately and see what happens
next. The last paralysis had this buzzing sound attached to it
and I had a feeling I was about it go out of my body, but I
could not go thru it, so I forced myself to wake up. Maybe next
time, as you suggested, I can tell myself that I am really not
awake but dreaming and force it to lucid. But the thing is, I
feel I am really awake just unable to move my body and the fact
that I unable to move my body really freaks me out and then I
try hard to wake up and I do.
I'd love teleportation (I've been able to fly once) once I
master it. I have many things to explore. Thanks Slasher. This
has been a very good learning experience. For instance, I did
not know much about awareness training.
I've had a couple of experiences at least ten years ago. Maybe
you can shed some light on it as to what it was, when you get a
chance but we can discuss it later. I kind of know but would be
nice to get another perspective.
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Slasher1985
Date: October 22, 2013, 2:17 am
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Too bad I forgot to mention no wake-up alarms at either steps,
but I think it's clearly understood that any sudden waking up
would cause the forgetting of a part of or all of a dream. ;D
Your brother as a symbol could be great if you can overcome your
emotions, but unless you do that, you need to focus on a symbol
that helps you concentrate, that is able to remind you of
things.
The trance state used to happen to me many times, but you must
realize that it conflicts with 4. Once in a trance state, your
awareness cannot possibly exist. You must try to focus as much
as possible during the day (without tiring yourself). Anything
you see can become part of the dream world, and anything in real
life can have been seen in a dream before, causing a deja vu.
It's a chain, and it's important to keep your brain in focus, so
that information can run while you dream enough so that it
produces variety in your dreams when you become lucid.
In sleep paralysis you are actually half awake, and in some
cases, able to really open your eyes. Sometimes there is a sound
yes. Trying to wake up will increase the scare, trying to go
back to sleep is the key here, because you can leave a thought
inside your head which will provoke your mind to remember this
event. Obviously, this is not easy, the sleep paralysis scenario
is often a gateway to a nightmare as well. I remember moments in
which I imagined something coming at me from the edge of the
bed. The most famous sleep paralysis cases have lead to unreal
images of alien abductions, you know. So careful here.
Try to focus on false awakenings, this is how I first had my
lucid dreams. So, have I really woken up? Let me turn on the
lights. Ooops, it doesn't work, so, no, I am dreaming. At that
instant, all was bright in the room, and everything suddenly had
more detail. My mind could not cope with so much detail, and I
instantly woken up with a beautiful happiness. What was that?
That was incredible. I must do that again sometime. Obviously,
doing it for the second time was not that easy, but once it
happens once, that is motivation. ;D
Tell me more about your experience, maybe I can help. :)
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 22, 2013, 7:27 pm
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Just stopping by quickly to say I'll get back to you soon on
this, Slasher. Great insight so far. I've finally found my dream
partner. That sounds so romantic but you know what I mean. :)
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Re: Dreams
DIR By: Emma
Date: October 23, 2013, 6:58 pm
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Slasher, most times I am aware that I am in the middle of a
sleep paralysis and the reason why I try very hard to wake up is
because, I feel if I am under attack then I will have no power
to fight back since I have no sense of my body. In my last one,
I was brave enough because my eyes were open and I could see my
room and the fact that I was lying facing the door made me
realize even more and so, I waited for a few seconds to go
actually out of my body, but apart from this profound buzzing
sound, nothing else was happening and eventually, fear took over
me once again. I strongly feel though it's a work in progress.
I've heard from researchers that lucid dream is only the baby
step to full blown out of experiences. And I'd rather have OBE
than be in lucid dreams because you are still not in touch with
other realities or dimensions in the full sense if you are still
lucid. That's my understanding of it. In fact, I've had a few
out of body experiences, where I was thrown into this 5th
dimension, but that happened a while back. It was spontaneous
and I feel the reason why it happened was because I was having a
hard time dealing with the reality that I was living at that
time. Anyway, next time I have sleep paralysis I'll take your
advice and stick with it and see what happens.
Because my dreams are quite intense I almost always experience
sudden wake up and that's why I forget a lot of my dreams, but
there are dreams that are incredibly hard to forget. They are
just too detail and vivid. So the dream tests will be hard to do
if I am already in the middle of a very intense dream which will
not take give me time to think or run a test, but I'll give it a
shot. I've noticed that when my brother is involved in any dream
is only when I start to question my reality, no matter how
intense the dream is, it makes me pause and question my 'state
of being'. It's always one thing leading to another. So my
brother is the key but he's also a very big obstacle since I am
incredibly attached to him emotionally. I feel things are trying
to happen to me naturally but because I have this overwhelming
fear and the fact that, I am so emotionally attached to my
brother is what taking me such a long time.
I think you are right about the trance state. It does contradict
with No. 4. However, one time I was crossing this building and I
noticed for the first time that there were some very strong
pillars in front of it. It was probably part of the building
design I suppose. What bothered me was the fact that I couldn't
tell for the life me if they were always there. I thought they
were never there and I thought it was the first time I was
seeing these pillars in the real world, but they couldn't have
made it overnight. That's virtually impossible. And I walk that
street every day, so how could I not notice those before? It
then begged the question, was I dreaming the same street without
the pillars then? Possibly. Or did I just simply not notice
these before? So there are things like that happen to me
sometimes. On one hand, I am extremely detail oriented; on
another, I don't notice it if there's an elephant in the room.
Or perhaps my dream state might just be overlapping my real
world at times. In any case, it's very interesting to say the
least.
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