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       A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: HowBrown1953
       Date: August 3, 2025, 7:11 am
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       First of all, this is the terrific article that Pete Damgaard
       found. Had Pete not found it, it more
       than likely would have never been located. IMHO, it is a
       landmark article and Pete deserves
       great credit for locating it.
       This article is well worth discussing. I have listed the
       paragraphs with numbers and will add some
       observations. The article may answer some questions or bring new
       ones to the case study.
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       PROVIDENCE NEWS
       JUNE 10, 1902
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       He Confessed To Murder
       Pardoned Man Admitted Guilt
       So Former Cellmate Says
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       Hacked Woman To Pieces
       She Was Termed " Old Shakespeare"
       and Was A Well Known Character of
       The Metropolis.
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       1. Now that he is safe put of the country on Governor Odell's
       pardon, regarded by the public as the innocent victim of the
       police, it
       is said that Ameer Ben Ali, alias "Frenchy," confessed to a
       cellmate to Emilio Sultan, the court interpreter, and to others
       that
       he murdered "Old Shakespeare".
       2. Sultan told the story to Superintendent Byrnes and to others.
       According to him Frenchy admitted that he was in the room and
       handled the body after the murder occurred, but with
       characteristic cunning would not admit in so many words that he
       had
       hacked the old woman to pieces.
       3. Among those who knew of the reported confession to his
       cellmate were former District Attorney De Lancey Nicoll and his
       assistant, Francis L. Wellman. They preferred not to use it
       because the cellmate was in prison on a charge of forgery
       4. The story is now made public by William H. Thompson, playing
       with the Mary Mannering-Kyrie Bellew Theatrical company.
       Mr. Thompson says Sultan told him the whole story of Frenchy's
       confession.
       5. "I am surprised that the story has not been published long
       ago," said Mr. Thompson. "I know the facts are in the possession
       of
       several men. The news of the confession could not by any means
       be called a secret."
       SULTAN A CIGAR DEALER
       6. "Emilio Sultan, an Arab, kept a cigar store in Broadway and
       in Forty-second Street, and it was there that I knew him. He was
       the
       interpreter at Frenchy's trial. Frenchy was a member of the wild
       Riffian tribe and he spoke more Arabic than French."
       7. "Sultan talked with Frenchy many times in jail. The savage
       prisoner was glad to see the only man in New York with whom he
       could
       talk without restraint. I used to buy coffee in Sultan's place
       and buy cigars of him, and he told me the story. He said that
       Frenchy
       admitted the crime to him."
       8. "But his admission took a curious form. On the night of the
       murder, Frenchy admitted he went to the room in which the
       woman's
       body lay. He handled the mutilated body, he said but would not
       admit killing the woman. Sultan has been dead for years. I never
       regarded what he told me as a secret, for he never treated it as
       such."
       Former Superintendent of Police Byrnes said:
       9. "I have known of this confession a long while, but I have
       preferred not to say anything about it. The case was so strong
       it seemed
       unnecessary to bring it up."
       10."At the time of the trial I heard that Frenchy confessed to
       Sultan that he had handled the body after the murder. I asked
       Sultan
       why he had not testified to that, and he said he did not
       understand his oath obliged him to tell more than Frenchy said
       under
       examination. When the jury was out, Sultan said to me, " The
       fellow deserves to die". I asked him what he meant by that and
       he
       replied: "He is not fit to live. I know him. He has told me."
       NOT SURPRISED AT NEWS
       11. Lawyer Emanuel M. Friend, who defended Frenchy, was not
       surprised when told it was rumored Frenchy had confessed. "The
       relation of attorney and client is sacred," said he, "and I can
       therefore say nothing as to the actual guilt or innocence of
       Frenchy.
       I might say, however, that the result of the trial did not
       astonish me."
       12. "I have heard that Frenchy confessed," said De Lancey
       Nicoll, who was district attorney when Frenchy was convicted.
       "That is,
       that he admitted handling the body after the murder. The
       confession was made to his cellmate, a man accused of forgery. I
       decided not to use the testimony, as it might be thought the man
       was inventing a confession in order to help himself out of his
       own
       trouble. I thought the case strong enough with the witnesses we
       already had."
       13. "I have known for years that Frenchy was reported to have
       confessed the crime," said Francis L. Wellman, who as assistant
       district attorney, had actual charge of the prosecution. " The
       fact that his counsel did not appeal for a new trial was
       sufficient proof
       that in getting a verdict of murder in the second degree the
       counsel thought Frenchy was making a lucky escape."
       CERTAIN OF HIS GUILT
       14. "The evidence against Frenchy was absolutely clinching. The
       scientific proof was most exact and overwhelming. I am as
       certain
       that Frenchy killed that old woman as I am that she was
       murdered. Frenchy's confession is a mere corroborative detail."
       15. Both Dr. Austin Flint and Dr. Cyrus Edson, the scientific
       experts who testified at the case, are confident that Frenchy
       was guilty.
       The news that he was said to have made a confession was no
       surprise to them.
       16. Frenchy was pardoned about two months ago. and came at once
       to New York from the State Asylum for the Criminal Insane at
       Matteawan, where he had been confined. He spoke with great
       bitterness against the police, and declared they had
       manufactured
       the evidence against him. He said they had cut his fingers and
       feet to furnish the blood to make good their clues. He sailed at
       once
       for his home, a condition of his pardon by Governor Odell that
       he would never return.
       
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: HowBrown1953
       Date: August 3, 2025, 8:25 am
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       1-  His name was Emile Sultan. A few articles refer to him, as
       this one does, as Emilio.
       An 1898 article which announced the suicide of a man in
       Washington Park (NYC) was
       almost certainly Sultan. His named was spelled Emil.
       2- Despite the headline, Frenchy had admitted to being in the
       room and handling the
       body, but within this paragraph, he didn't admit to murdering
       Brown.
       In this paragraph, if Ali had admitted to being in the room and
       merely handling the
       body, it begs the question of how he entered the room.
       It also means that regardless of whether C. Kniclo murdered
       Brown or not, the door
       was unlocked. Therefore, it leads me to believe that Eddie
       Fitzgerald did not unlock
       the door the next morning, but simply put his master key in the
       door lock on the
       outside.
       3- Nicoll decided not to use the cellmate's story of Ali
       confessing to him because it
       might be viewed as an effort of an inmate to help his case (
       forgery). Despite many
       jailhouse snitches providing bogus information, the opposite is
       also true and has
       assisted many prosecutors in obtaining a conviction for a
       loose-lipped inmate.
       Additionally, the story told to the fellow inmate was hearsay.
       Had either D.A. brought
       this up, the defense would instantly object to it being brought
       up. That Nicoll and
       Wellman both felt their case was sufficient is another reason to
       not bring it out in the
       open.
       4-  Up until this article was found, the only newspaper it was
       thought to appear in was
       the Buffalo Courier, which ran an article featuring Thompson's
       account of his chat with Sultan.
       The Buffalo Courier article does not feature a date line, such
       as "New York, June 10-"
       The Buffalo Courier was published on June 12th, three days after
       the gist of Thompson's
       story appeared in the Philadelphia Record on June 9th and two
       days after the article appeared in
       the Providence News on the 10th. Both the Philadelphia ( my home
       town) and Providence ( Nina's
       home town) papers have date lines that indicate the story
       emanated out of New York City.
       There are occasions where the details of a story that an
       out-of-town newspaper will carry came
       out of New York City, but did not appear in newspapers in the
       city, itself. We haven't found a
       newspaper from New York City that carried the story and we're
       still looking.
       7- According to this paragraph, Ali felt comfortable talking
       with Sultan. He did have two friends
       in Brooklyn who visited him while he was in the Tombs, Jenalli &
       Bozieb. It would understandable
       that he'd be less likely to divulge anything related to the
       handling of the body and especially
       committing murder to the Brooklynites, who, in their own words,
       considered him a good fellow.
       Perhaps knowing that Sultan had been brought in by the French,
       he may have felt at ease getting
       things off his chest in front of someone who he believed was in
       his corner. Sultan was brought in by the French
       Consulate, for certain, but may have been a non-partisan
       interpreter after all. See # 10
       According to Thompson, Sultan told him that Ali confessed to
       not only handling the body but
       committing the 'crime'.
       
       8- In this paragraph, Ali admits to handling the body but not
       murdering her.
       10-Inspector Byrnes states he knew of the confession at the time
       of the trial. An important question
       would be who told him. Byrnes does not say who, only that he
       heard of the confession.
       This indicates Sultan told someone or some others of the
       confession while the trial was underway
       or even before it.
       Byrnes obviously knew that Sultan was brought in by the French.
       Sultan was accepted by Judge Smyth
       as he had worked cases before. Therefore, Sultan may not have
       had any allegiance, technically, to either
       the prosecution or the defense, his ties to the French Consul,
       notwithstanding.
       Sultan's comments to Byrnes as they waited for the jury to
       return on July 3rd seem to indicate that Sultan didn't
       buy the story of Ali simply handling the body after death, but
       rather that he had murdered her.
       11- That Friend wasn't surprised at the confession reveals an
       unspoken doubt in his former client's innocence.
       13- Wellman is incorrect in stating there was no appeal sent to
       a higher court. That appeal was submitted by all
       three defense attorneys on the day Ali was sentenced to Sing
       Sing, July 10th. This may have been a mere formality
       to satisfy Ali supporters ( and the French), as they do not
       appear to have made any other appeals on his behalf.
       Many of those not in Ali's corner may have thought Ali did have
       a 'lucky escape'.
       16- Ali was released from Dannemora, not Matteawan. His
       sentenced was commuted. He did not receive a pardon.
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: HowBrown1953
       Date: August 3, 2025, 8:49 am
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       No date line on the June 12th, 1902 Buffalo Courier.
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: Michael Banks
       Date: August 3, 2025, 1:04 pm
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       Excellent find by Pete. The Brown/Damgaard network keeps finding
       them.
       So Byrnes didn’t mention the confession at the trial because he
       thought that the case was strong enough and I can understand why
       the Prosecution decided not to use it but why didn’t he bring it
       up at the appeals? Surely it would have removed any possibility
       of a favourable outcome for Ali and his team?
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: HowBrown1953
       Date: August 3, 2025, 1:40 pm
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       Mike:
       Thanks for bringing that up.
       The July 10th appeal from the defense never went anywhere.
       Byrnes probably felt an appeal wouldn't amount to much. After
       all, it would be difficult to prove in court.
       Even if Sultan was put on a witness stand and repeated what Ali
       told him, it wasn't proof beyond a reasonable doubt or
       a means of slamming shut any potential appeal/release of the
       convicted man.
       In January 1893, Ali was in the Matteawan asylum, with little
       chance of anyone, attorneys or the French, mounting an appeal.
       The French-backed, Robillard-led campaigns didn't begin until
       1897.
       Byrnes left the NYPD in 1895.
       Nicoll left the DA's office in 1893 and Wellman resigned as
       asst. DA on November 23, 1894.
       Two old maxims come to mind....
       "Let sleeping dogs lie.."
       If the defense didn't pursue an appeal, then any possible use of
       the confession was unnecessary.
       "It's water under the bridge...."
       Shortly after the sentencing, life went back to normal for all
       those involved. Other crimes to investigate, other defendants to
       represent on the other side.
       We are more interested in the case today in 2025 than the
       participants on the prosecution side were after Ali was
       sentenced.
       The pardon campaigns brought the case back to life....but they
       certainly wouldn't bring up the confession to Sultan.  ;)
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: Kattrup
       Date: August 3, 2025, 2:44 pm
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       It's odd that the story keeps mentioning a cellmate that Ali
       supposedly confessed to. How did anyone learn that he had
       confessed to the cellmate - did Ali himself tell that to Sultan,
       or did the cellmate mention it to the police, perhaps looking
       for a deal? That seems to me to be what Nicoll is saying.
       Who was the cellmate -  someone accused of forgery - and how did
       Ali, the supposed non-english speaker, communicate with him?
       Howard implied or suggested that maybe Elbogen was the man, but
       Elbogen of course was not charged with forgery, but with
       kidnapping (luring young women under promise of theatrical
       careers).
       Still, I think the suggestion has merit, Elbogen could actually
       speak with Ali, and the article about Ali's confession is eleven
       years after the facts, perhaps Nicoll misremembered the
       cellmate's crime.
       Note how in the other paper to carry the story, the Philadelphia
       Record, Sultan himself is named as the cellmate!
       At any rate, it seems Ali told his story to two people - Sultan
       and the cellmate. Sultan told William H. Thompson, an actor who
       then revealed it to the papers.
       But from Nicoll's comments I would suggest he knew of the
       confession from the cellmate, not from Sultan.
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       Re: A Review Of  The Providence News Article: June 10, 1902
   DIR By: HowBrown1953
       Date: August 3, 2025, 3:46 pm
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       Elbogen could actually speak with Ali, and the article about
       Ali's confession is eleven years after the facts, perhaps Nicoll
       misremembered the cellmate's crime.
       I agree Pete....Nicoll may have misremembered or, in fact, may
       have changed the description of Elbogen's charge since
       kidnapping was a more serious charge than forgery.
       To me, it would make more sense to change the description of the
       cellmate's charge, so as to avoid public scrutiny over the NYC
       DA's office accepting the word of a kidnapper.
       Forgers were a dime a dozen.
       All of this...the newspaper reports & all they bring up....leads
       us to consider why was Thompson the first person to publicly
       mention the confession.
       Consider that Ali had been out of the country for almost seven
       weeks before the first report appeared in print.
       Why, if the date line was from New York....The Phila Record had
       a June 8 date line out of New York City...didn't this story
       appear in New York papers such as the Times, Tribune, World,
       Herald, Press, Evening Telegram, Evening Post, Evening World, or
       any papers of note? I have scoured the hell out of every
       newspaper in Old Fulton and Newspapers Com and have
       come up with nothing.
       The Record article does not mention Thompson....but the
       Providence News did. I feel that Thompson told his story in New
       York City
       because the text in the earlier Providence paper with the NYC
       dateline is found in the Buffalo article
       Could Thompson have picked up a paper on June 9th and read the
       Philadelphia paper while in New York City?
       We don't know where Thompson was on June 8th, but we do know he
       was in Buffalo on the 11th of June, if not earlier.
       He appeared on stage on June 12th in Buffalo.
       Another mystery, gents.
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