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#Post#: 10972--------------------------------------------------
Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: walktall Date: June 11, 2016, 4:56 am
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The UK reviewing team recently had a meeting where several
topics were discussed. This has resulted in changes to various
matters of cache placement and events in the UK as follows:
Placing of caches in Culverts, Mines, Adits, Caves and
Underground Quarries.
There have been issues with disturbing bats which frequently
roost in some of these locations. It was decided there would be
no restrictions on placing caches in these locations but to
avoid any issues cache owners would be asked to show they have
permission from the relevant landowner.
Please note that caches in culverts under roads managed by
Highways England and in culverts under railway lines (Network
Rail) will not be allowed. Both these organisations have made
this request and it's explained in the UK Geocaching Polices
Wiki: Highways England - Network Rail.
Event stacking
This phrase refers to holding multiple events that are close to
each other or at similar times. Events are social gatherings of
geocachers and having too many too close to each other
diminishes their value to the community. Events are not just an
excuse to get a 'smiley'. In the future, if an event is
submitted and another event is either already published or also
waiting review and they are too close to each other then the
following guidance will apply:
Events will be published within a similar time period only if
they are more than 20 miles apart (as the crow flies). Events
closer to each other than 20 miles will only be published if the
end time of the first is more 10 hours before the start time of
the next. In London which is a popular tourist destination and
where many events get submitted it was decided the distance
would be a 3 mile circle around Trafalgar Square rather than 20
miles. The time restriction of 10 hours will still apply.
Anywhere else in London the 20 mile/10 hour guideance will
apply.
Camping events
Camping is a very popular activity among geocachers and long
weekend camping trips particularly so. It’s becoming common to
have a lot of geocaching events during these 2 or 3 days. This
does diminish the value of events as social gatherings as it's
usually the same people attending each time. The event
guidelines say this:
An event is a gathering of geocachers, facilitating the social
aspect of geocaching. It is organized by geocachers and is open
to other geocachers and those interested in learning about the
game. It takes place at the posted coordinates, includes start
and end times, and lasts at least 30 minutes. Events with
several elements, a sequence of events, or events that are near
the same time or location and intended for the same audience
should be submitted as a single event.
Therefore in the future only one event will be allowed during a
camping "long weekend". This event must be on a specific day
with a start and finish time. If the camp site is closed to
visitors; that is you can only get on the camp site if you are
camping then this event must be open to all geocachers so needs
to be held off the camp site.
Chris
Graculus
Volunteer UK Reviewer for geocaching.com
Here's the link to the forum discussing these changes that only
affect the UK:
Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
HTML http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=339633
#Post#: 10976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: Griff Grof Date: June 17, 2016, 6:28 am
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What are people's thoughts on the event stacking aspect?
I think it's a good idea in theory as events were becoming too
common.
BUT there seems to be little consideration for souvenirs, Leap
Day events, etc etc which will really restrict things.
I think the rule should be lifted at such times.
I think the GAGB are going to reach out to the community to
gather their opinions, so if action is taken I'll post details
here about how you can have your say in reaching a solution to
satisfy all parties (those who are annoyed, those who don't care
and reviewers)
#Post#: 10981--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: walktall Date: June 17, 2016, 4:07 pm
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In general, as long a reviewers have their sensible hat on, it
should work OK.
I say sensible hat because there are certain situations like:
flash mob, CITO and other HQ promoted special days were the 20
miles/10 hour rule would cause issues.
The other is geographical situations were the 20 miles/10 hour
rule doesn't work, e.g. Lynmouth, England & Porthcawl, Wales -
under 18 miles apart as the crow flies but over 130 miles apart
by road :o or North Berwick & Earlsferry under 10 miles apart
but about 75 miles by road :o
#Post#: 11145--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: Yorkshire Yellow Date: September 2, 2016, 11:31 am
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Or opposite sides of the River Severn.
#Post#: 11465--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: SangueG Date: September 20, 2017, 3:24 pm
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[quote author=walktall link=topic=740.msg10972#msg10972
date=1465638991]
The UK reviewing team recently had a meeting where several
topics were discussed. This has resulted in changes to various
matters of cache placement and events in the UK as follows:
Placing of caches in Culverts, Mines, Adits, Caves and
Underground Quarries.
There have been issues with disturbing bats which frequently
roost in some of these locations. It was decided there would be
no restrictions on placing caches in these locations but to
avoid any issues cache owners would be asked to show they have
permission from the relevant landowner.
Please note that caches in culverts under roads managed by
Highways England and in culverts under railway lines (Network
Rail) will not be allowed. Both these organisations have made
this request and it's explained in the UK Geocaching Polices
Wiki: Highways England - Network Rail.
[/quote]
For anyone who was on the twitter hour last night, this is what
I was looking for. I knew I had read something somewhere about
new guidelines of placing caches underground. But is this still
valid? I can't see it on the GC.com website now, unless I am
looking in the wrong place.
I physically placed a new cave cache in the early hours of this
morning. But am now working on obtaining permission. Leckhampton
area, if anyone has experience getting permission. I will give
it a month of trying. If I succeed it could mean the possible
placement of another couple in the area at a later date. If not,
then it will mean me heading back to TC or OC.uk again.
#Post#: 11466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: Bear and Ragged Date: September 21, 2017, 2:37 pm
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[quote author=Gackt link=topic=740.msg11465#msg11465
date=1505939084]
For anyone who was on the twitter hour last night, this is what
I was looking for. I knew I had read something somewhere about
new guidelines of placing caches underground.
But is this still valid? I can't see it on the GC.com website
now, unless I am looking in the wrong place.
I physically placed a new cave cache in the early hours of this
morning. But am now working on obtaining permission. Leckhampton
area, if anyone has experience getting permission. I will give
it a month of trying. If I succeed it could mean the possible
placement of another couple in the area at a later date. If not,
then it will mean me heading back to TC or OC.uk again.
[/quote]
Probably not on the GC site, it will be one of those guidelines
covered by "Other/local laws/guidelines" and explained in the
Wiki page for the UK...
(Although, the not disturbing bats in caves has been used by
Reviewers in the US for a while, as there is a bat 'sickness'
around in the US)
#Post#: 11492--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: SangueG Date: October 18, 2017, 2:11 pm
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I had given up on getting permission for a Groundspeak cache, so
the box became a non-GC cache that will probably hardly ever be
found. Today, out of the blue, I have received an email that
grants me permission to place. I can't tell you how happy I am
:)
A trip to place another box will take place shortly. A tight
slithery route under central Gloucestershire. No nasty climbs.
No steep drops, I don't do heights (walktall shhh about the less
than 3m drop into a well.. and yes I still need to log that
one), but so pleased I will be able to take people to somewhere
I am almost certain they have not been before.
Lookout for a 5/5 coming soon.
#Post#: 11493--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: tarmacjohn Date: October 19, 2017, 1:50 pm
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Looking forward to it. ;D
#Post#: 11494--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: walktall Date: October 21, 2017, 7:33 am
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Sounds interesting :)
#Post#: 11495--------------------------------------------------
Re: Changes to the placing of caches/events in the UK
By: JimJinks Date: October 26, 2017, 11:08 am
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