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       #Post#: 8955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What do you count as a 'find'?
       By: walktall Date: January 26, 2015, 3:49 am
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       [quote author=Griff Grof link=topic=624.msg8954#msg8954
       date=1422259560]
       I guess YOSMs are fine, although there's always the argument
       that there's not actually a virtual permanently at these
       locations[/quote]
       But they are permanent, once they are added to the YOSM list,
       you can go to that location and claim it at any time :)
       [quote author=Griff Grof link=topic=624.msg8954#msg8954
       date=1422259560]
       [member=3]walktall[/member], if you had more than one would you
       count the duplicate logs too? [/quote]
       I have found two YOSMs and yes they do count to my total :)
       [quote author=Griff Grof link=topic=624.msg8954#msg8954
       date=1422259560]
       What's annoying is that GS count Lab Caches as finds but
       Project-GC don't - they should at least recognise it as part of
       your count if Geocaching.com do  :-\
       [/quote]
       GS don't include them in your "My Finds" PQ, will they ever or
       will they just disappear like another idea they had ::) ??? I
       presume this lack of full integration by GS of Lab caches into
       your finds list, is why Project-GC can't include them.
       I use the site: My Geocaching Profile
  HTML http://www.mygeocachingprofile.com/default.aspx,
       for some of its
       functionality, but due to the fact that GS does not include Lab
       caches in the output of your "My Finds" PQ, they now have a
       manual box where you can say how many Lab caches you've found.
       #Post#: 8956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What do you count as a 'find'?
       By: gaz_zippy Date: January 26, 2015, 7:58 am
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       I have 34 YSM finds and have them all as separate rows in GSAK
       so that the correct placed date, D/T, county etc... are
       recorded. I have no Lab cache finds as they just seemed like
       another crackpot idea, I cannot comment on the quality of them
       having not done one, but cannot understand why they are not
       included in your stats as they are no longer a new phenomenon.
       I also have my GC.com stats turned off and rely on a GSAK macro
       that I just run, fully automated to upload to my profile so very
       little required for me to do except kick it off and then click a
       save button once it has finished doing its number crunching.
       As for duplicate logs, other than YSM ones just delete them,
       then if your milestone caches are important to you simply lock
       them as described by others earlier in this thread.
       #Post#: 8957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What do you count as a 'find'?
       By: Griff Grof Date: January 26, 2015, 11:26 am
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       Right, have deleted my duplicate logs (other than the YOSMs) and
       have dropped to 1,777  :)
       Locked my milestones in on Geocaching.com BUT it seems like
       there's no way of doing it on Project-GC, so will have to edit
       them when/if they add that functionality.
       I really don't know what's happening with Lab caches. I've found
       1, and I would delete my log BUT I do still see it as a proper
       find, it was just like a virtual with a nice twist to it - so I
       don't see why GS and the stats sites aren't properly considering
       them. Plus, it's always nice to have the icon... especially
       since it's probably going to be a rare one since I reckon
       they'll ditch the idea soon.
       Or will they remove all trace of them if they are scrapped?  ;)
       ::)
       #Post#: 8958--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What do you count as a 'find'?
       By: Bear and Ragged Date: January 26, 2015, 12:04 pm
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       [quote author=Griff Grof link=topic=624.msg8957#msg8957
       date=1422293189]
       I really don't know what's happening with Lab caches. I've found
       1, and I would delete my log BUT I do still see it as a proper
       find, it was just like a virtual with a nice twist to it - so I
       don't see why GS and the stats sites aren't properly considering
       them. Plus, it's always nice to have the icon... especially
       since it's probably going to be a rare one since I reckon
       they'll ditch the idea soon.
       Or will they remove all trace of them if they are scrapped?  ;)
       ::)
       [/quote]
       GS seem to like to 'Pull them out' for Events, especially the
       Megas... So don't think they will drop them soon.
       However, as there seems to be cachers who chase, and seem happy
       to get the 'codeword' to log the Lab cache, it would make the
       icon 'less unique'
       #Post#: 8960--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What do you count as a 'find'?
       By: SangueG Date: January 26, 2015, 2:21 pm
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       The Lab caches... something to discuss in a separate thread I
       feel. But whilst it is mentioned here, I haven't found any of
       the ones set up for Megas as I have only been to one Mega.
       Originally I thought that was what they were going to be for, at
       least to begin with. I also understood "wrongly" how they would
       work. I thought they would be like a cross between Munzees and
       temporary caches. Like Munzees in that you would need to be at a
       specific location to be able to log them, and temporary caches
       in that they would be set only for a short period. Only the
       later seems to be the case. If both ideas I have just written
       had been combined then it would stop people for the most part
       getting the codes and logging them. But... oh well. I enjoyed
       setting the one lab cache
  HTML http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/cache/log/large/761c2354-6f0a-45e2-b07c-8700b9eb7d70.jpg<br
       />I hid for Yorkshire Yellow, and loved going to hunt down the l
       ab
       cache he hid for me which has now been hidden again as trad for
       all to find.
       Groundpeak just need to get their act together with what they
       are going to do with these properly, including the stats. Grrr.
       Anyways, back on topic...
       I have only found the 1 Lab cache, and count it as a find. I
       will be very upset if Groundspeak ever do a 'Challenge cache
       wipe out' on them.
       I have 2 YOSM finds, I count them both as finds. I don't
       actively search them out, but the two I have found were in very
       different locations and I enjoyed them muchly.
       Separately, but sort of related to this topic, I do not log
       'attends' on events hosted by myself, and so do not get any
       finds for those. I am in a very small minority as far as that
       practice, and have to say I have no quibbles with anyone who
       does the opposite as events seem to be treated quite different
       to normal trads
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