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       #Post#: 7453--------------------------------------------------
       Lab caches - moan
       By: walktall Date: May 18, 2014, 4:48 am
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       Now having done some Lab caches at the Kent Mega, I thought they
       might be more integrated than the personal lab cache I did
       BUT NO
       I think it's worse than those Challenge caches, at least they
       weren't included in your on-line find count. I'm now running two
       different find counts: on-line which includes the Lab caches and
       My PQ finds which doesn't included Lab caches >:(
       Lab caches:
       [list type=decimal]
       [li]It seems other cachers can't see my Lab cache finds, just
       that I've found some.[/li]
       [li]You can't date your finds, it's dated when you actually log
       them.[/li]
       [li]O, no on-line log to fill in, so you can't share your
       experience.[/li]
       [li]They are only available to find for a short time and the
       Kent Mega didn't put the link to them on-line, so couldn't
       download the GPX files.[/li]
       [li]Unless you know the URL to the Lab caches you did, your
       stuffed! Luckily I took a picture of the Lab cache sheets at
       Kent Mega.[/li]
       [li]For Kent Mega, you had only 9 days to log the Lab caches, is
       this the norm?[/li]
       [li]GS says they will be fully integrated in the future. Will
       this mess up my history of finds >:([/li]
       [/list]
       You might be able to tell, I'm not impressed with Lab caches so
       far. Yes, it was something different and a bit of fun at Kent
       Mega to do the Lab caches there but I still don't get them ???
       The Kent Mega
  HTML http://labs.geocaching.com/goto/woodlandwander
       Lab caches:
       [img]
  HTML http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac310/rissi_david/Labcaches-WoodlandWanderKentMega2014_zpsc6fe2315.jpg~original[/img]
       #Post#: 7454--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: Griff Grof Date: May 18, 2014, 1:15 pm
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       Is that a completely different website?  :o
       I too would have thought the actual Lab Caches would be more
       genuine and... as you say, integrated.
       I was a little surprised about the logging process, too, but I
       also thought that was just because it was the Feb Trial thing
       :-\ :(
       Don't get me wrong, Groundspeak provide a great service, the
       site is stable with a pleasant interface etc and they list
       millions of caches... but sometimes I do think one of us could
       handle these little things better  :D
       Oh, and I personally wouldn't  go as far as saying challenges
       were better, but at least you could write a log for them!  :D
       #Post#: 7455--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: L8HNB Date: May 18, 2014, 3:40 pm
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       I trust you will be letting the frog and the organisers of the
       Kent Mega know what a great caching experience you had  ;D
       Not been to the Hop Farm for donkeys years - TR Drivers Club do
       last time.  I remember they had a "WimWam for a mustard mill" on
       show in the museum!
       H
       #Post#: 7491--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: walktall Date: May 27, 2014, 6:32 pm
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       Here's the latest from GS about them:
       [quote]Your Lab Cache finds are now more official than ever. Lab
       Caches are scheduled to be rolled into Geocaching find
       statistics and your milestones beginning on June 3, 2014.
       Besides cheering, there's one other thing you might want to
       consider doing.
       The addition of your Lab Cache finds may alter your milestones.
       Check now to lock-in milestones on your Geocaching.com profile.
       After the update, you'll be able to use the tool to lock in a
       Lab Cache find as a milestone. You'll also find Lab Cache stats
       on your chronology and geocache types section. If you created a
       Lab Cache and it was logged, you'll find new stats on your owned
       geocaches page.
       Thanks for finding a Lab Cache and helping to play a part in
       shaping the future of geocaching.
       Sincerely, Everyone at Geocaching HQ[/quote]
       #Post#: 7494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: Griff Grof Date: May 28, 2014, 2:38 am
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       "Helping play a part in the FUTURE of Geocaching"
       If Lab Caches are the future, it doesn't look very bright,
       although this update will improve things a little  :D
       I'm not sure I'll bother finding another unless they are easily
       at reach, will you?   ???
       #Post#: 7501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: gaz_zippy Date: May 28, 2014, 4:16 am
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       Still not got a clue what a Lab Cache is, if I try to look at
       one that another geocacher has found via their profile I just
       get redirected to:
  HTML https://labs.geocaching.com/
       where I can
       follow links to seemingly anywhere, another cache page, website
       etc... but nothing, as far as I can see, Lab Cache related.
       #Post#: 7503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: L8HNB Date: May 28, 2014, 5:16 am
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       Cart before the horse again?
       We'll probably do one just for the list, bit like a Wherigo and
       webcam caches.
       #Post#: 7506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: walktall Date: May 28, 2014, 6:45 am
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       [quote author=gaz_zippy link=topic=514.msg7501#msg7501
       date=1401268597]
       Still not got a clue what a Lab Cache is, if I try to look at
       one that another geocacher has found via their profile I just
       get redirected to:
  HTML https://labs.geocaching.com/
       where I can
       follow links to seemingly anywhere, another cache page, website
       etc... but nothing, as far as I can see, Lab Cache related.
       [/quote]
       This was one of my moans, that you did a Lab cache and no one
       else can see it, what was the point  >:(
       #Post#: 7507--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: Griff Grof Date: May 28, 2014, 7:00 am
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       It's as if they exist in the moment and then vanish forever  :D
       They initially said that Lab Caches were for testing new caching
       experiences, can anyone actually see where they're going with
       this though  ???
       #Post#: 7512--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Lab caches - moan
       By: walktall Date: May 28, 2014, 7:29 am
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       It seems they are targeted at smart phones: to get the details,
       find and log all while in the 'field'.
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