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#Post#: 6850--------------------------------------------------
Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: Griff Grof
Date: January 27, 2014, 2:00 am
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For instance, if you've placed a cache with someone under their
account should you ever log it? Caches you've adopted but
haven't found? Your caches you've sent for adoption? Any other
examples?
What do you think?
#Post#: 6851--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: tarmacjohn
Date: January 27, 2014, 6:39 am
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Personally, if I let any of my caches get adopted I wouldn't
claim a find on them. Caches I have adopted I don't have a
problem claiming the find as long as it was before the adoption.
If you have placed a cache with another cacher then again no
problem claiming it at a later date.
Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
#Post#: 6852--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: walktall
Date: January 27, 2014, 7:14 am
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The short answer is - it depends, which isn't much of an answer
::)
So, I found Glorious Glos cache years ago but now through
adoption, I own it - I can't see any issue with this.
I would have thought before you adopted a cache, you would have
had some interest in that cache, so therefore had already found
it. But, if for some reason you hadn't found it and adopted it,
then no.
Caches you've put up for adoption - There are different levels
here:
1) Is any special knowledge needed to find this cache e.g.
solving clues or cyphers, travelling distance to collect
information you already have, etc
2) Ingenious cache hides (similar to 1 above but this is about
the physical side)
3) Regular caches
Case 3: I can't see any issue once adopted, they aren't your
caches, so yes especially as we all know, caches get moved about
at GZ and sometimes you can't find your own caches doing
maintenance :o
Case 2: This is more difficult especially if the D/T is an
unusual one, as you know what to look for
Case 1: If you go through the steps a cacher with no prior
knowledge would go through, yes but also case 2 applies here.
Helping a CO place a new cache - There are different levels
here:
1) Did you physically place the cache in the 'hole' for the CO
2) You visited the site but the CO placed it while you weren't
looking or not there
3) You just helped with the listing and suggested hiding spots
but hadn't visited GZ
I think in any of these cases, yes you should be able to find
this cache but for cases 1 & perhaps 2: no FTF, case 3: I would
let others have chance for a FTF as you had prior knowledge but
are you that desperate for a FTF ???
As TJ says:
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> Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
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Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: SangueG
Date: January 27, 2014, 7:31 am
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> Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
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This.
I see cachers with high numbers of finds, who haven't actually
found some that they log.
I have looked at archived caches and I have seen cachers who
have logged those when they clearly haven't.
I have seen a lot of things that could easily annoy me if they
were against Geocaching rules...
But Geocaching is mostly covered by guidelines, not rules, so
any number stats are not that meaningful unless you compare with
another cacher who you know has played the same way as you.
If Groundspeak really wanted to enforce not finding caches you
have hidden but have been adopted by others, or not logging
archived caches, or other reasons, they could easily implement
the restriction. But they have chosen not to.
As they have left it open to us if we want to log a find or not
on these sort of examples, I leave my opinion open, in that I
would decide on a case by case example as if I would log a find
or not. I certainly not about to log caches if I feel I am
cheating myself.
#Post#: 6854--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: Griff Grof
Date: January 27, 2014, 11:51 am
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--- Quote from: tarmacjohn link ---
> Ultimately, it is only yourself you have to satisfy
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I echo... ^ this. TJ, have you ever considered writing 'The
Philosophy of Caching" ;D
I agree with what you've all said though.
The Kildanes caches Wacky races still owns are walking distance,
but I haven't logged them.
I doubt I would log my own caches after sending them for
adoption, but, as you say WT, they move :o
What about 5/5s?
#Post#: 6876--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: pigdogboyandgirls
Date: January 31, 2014, 10:31 am
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No.
But everyone has their own caching rules. What's right for one
isn't necessarily right for another.
#Post#: 7326--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is it right to ever find your own caches?
DIR By: Yorkshire Yellow
Date: March 25, 2014, 7:10 am
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I've found a standard multi cache which I've then gone on to
adopt and also my event cache. That's all.
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