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       #Post#: 5612--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: SangueG Date: September 30, 2013, 7:41 am
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       Hear is a link
  HTML http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=310962&view=findpost&p=5255080<br
       />to the first big trial I did using the phone for caching, whic
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       describes the battery life. I have not noticed the battery
       worsen in the following months, but I have not found that many
       caches in one hit since either.
       You might look at the battery life that I described there and
       decide it is poor. But compared to my GPSr it is good. With a
       set of Duracells in my GPSr they would of been used up almost
       completely by the end of that day. I have to say though that my
       GPSr is not a modern one.
       #Post#: 5613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: walktall Date: September 30, 2013, 11:59 am
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       [quote author=SangueG link=topic=401.msg5611#msg5611
       date=1380543965]
       This subject has many topics that can be discussed / debated.
       Nice one Griff Grof for bringing up :D
       I'll pick one point made for the moment to explain how I use /
       get around, and that is this one brought up by walktall:
       I have a 250mb per month included with my basic phone plan.
       Since the beginning of the year when I got the phone I have not
       used more than 100mb per month, and so have not paid any extra.
       How I have got around this is two fold, but both by using the
       wifi. When I am out in places like Tesco's for example, I
       connect to their free wifi. For the times I am not in the range
       of such free wifi, because I have BT broadband I can tap into
       free wifi spots all over the country (and the world apparently),
       and so use this to check on new caches and check email
       notifications. The BT wifi hotspots are extensive and I have
       been surprised where I have picked up a signal, for example when
       I placed the Ciren Movable Cache in the farmland behind our
       house yesterday I was connected where I hid it which was over
       500' from the nearest building.
       [/quote]
       My issue is £10 a month is toooo much, I can't justify that cost
       for something I would use effectively just for geocaching and
       the odd (very odd) need to make a phone call. It would also need
       to be Windows based mobile, as Memory Map on Android is no where
       near as good :(
       I do make use of wifi hotspots, which is great. I remember being
       in Letterkenny logging a TB to make sure the history stayed
       correct, as I was on holiday for another six days after dropping
       off the TB :)
       #Post#: 5614--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: walktall Date: September 30, 2013, 12:03 pm
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       PS I do think in time the technologies will merge but what might
       take longer is battery power. So using 'AA' batteries for a GPS
       is much easier to carry spare power or buy some if you ran out
       unexpectedly.
       #Post#: 5859--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: The Wombles Date: October 23, 2013, 4:10 pm
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       Personally I prefer a separate GPSr but since upgrading my
       smartphone I can now actually find caches with it!
       Going in the other direction, Garmin are about to launch an
       Android based GPS which has everything apart from a phone (but
       will connect to WiFi). Garmin Monterra.
  HTML http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/122006-garmin-monterra-outdoor-gps-pictures-and-hands-on
       It's even got a smartphone price!
       #Post#: 5861--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: tarmacjohn Date: October 23, 2013, 4:15 pm
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       £600
       I would want it to sign the log for me as well at that price
       #Post#: 5866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: SangueG Date: October 23, 2013, 4:29 pm
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       Being based on Android I guess then that you can stretch the
       screen to make what you are viewing larger? That would be handy
       for me. When we did that night cache a little while ago I held
       Yorkshire Yellow's GPSr for a while, but without my glasses on I
       did find the display a bit small to see. With my phone I can
       stretch the screen so that I can view it a bit bit easier.
       The dedicated GPS does still tend to have that bit more
       ruggedness about it though. I was out the other night for a few
       hours in constant rain, only walking, not caching, but was
       checking out places for possible caches. It's the first time
       since I mostly moved to my phone over my dedicated GPS that I
       felt a bit nervous keeping it out in the open. Only got it out
       of my pocket when I needed to check coords of where I was.
       #Post#: 5867--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: walktall Date: October 23, 2013, 4:29 pm
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       [quote author=tarmacjohn link=topic=401.msg5861#msg5861
       date=1382562944]
       £600
       I would want it to sign the log for me as well at that price
       [/quote]
       :D
       #Post#: 5879--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: Mashcast Date: October 24, 2013, 4:01 am
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       I'm caching on my phone (Samsung Galaxy SII) - using the c:geo
       app and I think it's pretty good so far.
       Phone caching has it's advantages especially for urban caches
       where you can paperless cache and also log your visit from GZ.
       No need for any planning if you have a decent network
       connection.
       Also c:geo has allowed me to save any number of cache details
       offline as a basice member (i thought this was a premium perk
       but the app does it anyway) - going offline just using the GPS
       part of the phone saves a lot of battery.
       For longer walks and rural areas then I suspect a GPSr would be
       more ideal. My 6 year old likes navigating to the cache and I do
       worry that my phone will break if she drops it. They're of more
       use for premium members too who can download PQ's. I'll be
       looking to get a cheapish GPSr from ebay soon to try it out.
       It's also more convenient to replace batteries.
       So I would say both have advantages and disadvantes still, so
       GPSr is not dead yet  :)
       #Post#: 5880--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: SangueG Date: October 24, 2013, 7:27 am
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       [quote author=Mashcast link=topic=401.msg5879#msg5879
       date=1382605319]
       They're of more use for premium members too who can download
       PQ's.
       [/quote]
       Do you know that you can download PQs to the phone you are using
       c:geo with, as long as you receive email on your phone too, just
       like you can with a dedicated GPSr? In fact maybe easier than
       some as you don't need to connect it to any computer via a
       cable.
       - Create a PQ, it will be sent to you by email.
       - Open your email and download the attachment.
       - Open c:geo and press 'Stored'.
       - Press 'Menu', then 'Manage', then 'Import GPX. c:geo will
       search your phone for any GPX files and list them for you.
       - Select the one you want to import, which will just be the one
       if you haven't tried before. The phone will then process the
       file, this could take some minutes depending on how large the PQ
       was.
       You've then got details of a host of offline caches in your
       pocket. And one good thing with a phone like that one is that
       you can store many more caches than many dedicated GPSrs can. If
       you've you've had the PQ in your phone for a long time and you
       want to check if any certain caches are still available and
       don't have any issues, then just select the cache and press
       'Refresh' to updated the individual cache details.
       If you knew all that then sorry, but it might be useful for
       someone else who is reading here :)
       #Post#: 5881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The demise of the GPS receiver 
       By: walktall Date: October 24, 2013, 8:53 am
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       I've used c:geo as well on my Windows smart phone but much
       prefer using a device that has OS maps on it and c:geo doesn't
       interface with Memory Map on the mobile. Or does some one know
       how?
       I would used my smart phone more but the resolution of the
       screen to select an object on the map is very poor, my old iPaq
       was far better and usable. I normally give up on my smart phone
       after I've managed to select everything on the map except what I
       want to :o
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