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       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Pir8sOldNew Date: February 23, 2013, 5:54 pm
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       Ok, new guy here, but I thought I'd share something.
       I use C:Geo on my smartphone to do caching, and not brilliant
       for GPS, but I cope with it. I'm still very new to it, and I've
       not yet worked out half the things people have mentioned 'PQ' ?
       'GPX' ? I might be young but I prefer sitting down and learning
       things from others.
       Going on the topic, C:Geo does actually tell me where PMO caches
       are, right down to centermetres on my phone, but as a basic
       member, I won't pay for a hobby I want as cheap as possible, but
       getting the most out of it. I haven't claimed a single PMO,
       because of own morals, I leave those for people who have paid
       for it.
       #Post#: 4236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: SangueG Date: February 23, 2013, 6:16 pm
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       I've heard that C:geo and some other third party software gives
       access to some things they should maybe not, but haven't looked
       into it myself.
       As for logging premium caches you have found if you are not a
       premium member.. this shouldn't be a problem, mostly. Many
       people do this via known backdoor method. Sometimes families who
       have more than one caching account in the same household, but do
       not all have premium membership.
       If it was me personally, and if I had a basic membership, I
       would log them if I have found them, but I would contact the
       cache owner first to check that they are ok with me doing so.
       Most will be I am sure.
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       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Bear and Ragged Date: February 24, 2013, 7:31 am
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       There is a known 'Back door' for logging Premium Member Only
       caches. (There's a couple of ways!)
       Groundspeaks view is - If you Found the cache and signed the
       log, you can log online.
       If the cache owner deletes the log you can appeal to
       Groundspeak. (You need proof you signed the log. Photo of the
       log book/sheet with you name and previous finders shown would be
       enough.)
       The Back door was closed a few years ago after an update to the
       site.
       Jeremy (GS owner) got it added back in and said it would stay
       in.
       It is there mainly for families to log, but if you can work out
       where the cache is, or stumble on it, why shouldn't you log it?
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