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       Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Griff Grof Date: January 11, 2013, 1:15 pm
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       Oh dear  :o
       Premium member only caches are now visible to THE WORLD on the
       GEOCACHING MAP - I was scanning the map without logging in, and
       spotted every premium cache was shown. You could zoom right down
       into each, pin-pointing their location. When you click on them,
       however, Groundspeak ask you to become a PM member... They only
       keep the cache pages secret then..
       WHAT  :o The only reason I made any of my caches PM only were so
       that muggles and land owners couldn't see where they were
       located - I think serval of us have done the same, after a
       certain night cache incident in the area  :D
       I think premium member only caches are now useless - people can
       find them without a hint! Landowners can get their locations to
       contact Groundspeak (or worse)...What is this all about! They're
       technically no longer exclusive to us premium members, either.
       One of the reasons I pay for a premium membership is to access
       the huge amounts of PM caches - now I may as well not bother
       being a PM, as I rarely use the other PM features  :-\
       What do you think about this!  ???
       #Post#: 3751--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Bear and Ragged Date: January 11, 2013, 1:43 pm
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       Must have been a glitch.
       I've just looked. Whilst you can see the PMO caches when zoomed
       out (you always could) as you zoom in they disappear.
       #Post#: 3752--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: walktall Date: January 11, 2013, 3:29 pm
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       Do you use PQ's ???
       #Post#: 3753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Griff Grof Date: January 11, 2013, 3:50 pm
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       [quote author=walktall link=topic=254.msg3752#msg3752
       date=1357939782]
       Do you use PQ's ???
       [/quote]
       Don't know how to   :o I've used it ONCE to find a "Large" cache
       nearby.
       If groundspeak should be updating anything, it should be PQ to
       make it more clear and user friendly - what's all that 500 cache
       thing and expirations  ??? - and I'm meant to be good with
       computers!  :D
       #Post#: 3754--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: walktall Date: January 11, 2013, 4:05 pm
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       Err, do you not download loads of caches round a centre point in
       one GPX download ???
       I use them constantly but then again, I don't have a smart phone
       with constant Internet access on it :(
       #Post#: 3755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: tarmacjohn Date: January 11, 2013, 5:17 pm
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       Couldn't cope without my PQ's.
       #Post#: 3756--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: Griff Grof Date: January 12, 2013, 3:17 am
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       [quote author=walktall link=topic=254.msg3754#msg3754
       date=1357941958]
       Err, do you not download loads of caches round a centre point in
       one GPX download ???
       I use them constantly but then again, I don't have a smart phone
       with constant Internet access on it :(
       [/quote]
       I manually "add to GPS" for each cache be it 1 or 100  :)
       #Post#: 3757--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: tarmacjohn Date: January 12, 2013, 3:57 am
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       WOW, you need to be taught PQ's
       #Post#: 3758--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: walktall Date: January 12, 2013, 4:34 am
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       [quote author=Griff Grof link=topic=254.msg3756#msg3756
       date=1357982264]
       I manually "add to GPS" for each cache be it 1 or 100  :)
       [/quote]
       O my god Griff, I remember those days years ago, a right pain
       and there wasn't even the programs like GSAK around to help :o
       :o :o
       [quote author=tarmacjohn link=topic=254.msg3757#msg3757
       date=1357984676]
       WOW, you need to be taught PQ's
       [/quote]
       ASAP :D
       There is a video on geocaching How to Create a PQ
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/v/JdUToGF1Kkc?version=3&hl=en_US&rel=0
       Perhaps Griff you should watch this, it is only 8:26 long.
       #Post#: 3759--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Uh oh... Premium member only caches now useless?
       By: foraging 5 Date: January 12, 2013, 9:43 am
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       Dont know what we would do without PQ's, very suprised that you
       have never tried using it?!! Though would love to know more
       about gsac if there are any offers out there....
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