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       Re: Checking For Understanding Chap 1-2
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: June 22, 2011, 12:38 pm
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       I sometimes find myself being a little envious of full-time
       teachers when doing this class.  I guess I also know the
       solution to the problem, but as a sub, I don't think we get the
       chance to implement, or even use many of these techniques in an
       ongoing way.  Carrie has done some long-term subbing and has
       seen the growth and understanding that takes place when the kids
       have a chance to experience some of these meaningful and
       effective tools to help them.  I am just a little jealous.  Just
       doing the reading and understanding the dynamics involved, makes
       me realize the these strategies would be very effective for even
       the most resistant of learners.
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       Re: Checking For Understanding Chap 1-2
   DIR By: Pam
       Date: June 23, 2011, 4:55 am
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       I loved all of your comments on checking for understanding
       while teaching.  I'm still trying to get this last assignment
       read.  I did listen to the email that had Ted Robinson talking
       about creativity.  I have taught a lot of years and I still am
       trying to figure out what the balance should be between direct
       instruction and letting children explore their own ideas.  From
       my experience, children need lots of freedom and time to draw
       and doodle and visit and share to encourage creativity in their
       writing.  While teaching in this manner, most first grade
       students write without organization and their conventions are
       terrible.  All students are much more creative however.  Time in
       the classroom is so precious that it is hard to decide what is
       most important.  If any of you have ideas let me know.  I am
       sorry about getting off of the topic.  I just broke one of my
       discussion rules that I learned from our last reading. "You must
       talk about the learning goal."  Maybe tomorrow I can be on
       topic.
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       Re: Checking For Understanding Chap 1-2
   DIR By: Adrian
       Date: June 23, 2011, 1:03 pm
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       I continue to be impressed with the content of this course.
       Many of the professors I had recently, employed many of these
       strategies, especially the writing to check for understanding
       and learning.  I didn't really enjoy that much at first, but as
       time went on, and I got better at it, I realized how much it
       helped me.  Not only to evaluate what I knew, but to actually
       organize my thoughts more efficiently.  So I understand
       firsthand how writing can be effective as an evaluation tool as
       well as a learning tool.  I have also been impressed by our
       school's efforts to include writing across the curriculm.  I
       really do think it helps students understand content when they
       have to write about it.
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       Re: Checking For Understanding Chap 1-2
   DIR By: Rebecca
       Date: June 27, 2011, 6:45 am
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       I enjoyed reading these two chapters. This is a time when a pair
       share would be great; there is lots of information to talk
       about. I liked the diagram on page seven from Wiggins and
       McTighe depicting curricular priorities. It is interesting to me
       that curriculum that at one time was considered to be enduring
       understanding is now placed in worth being familiar witlh. It
       seems that there is alwalys information that we think students
       should know, but there isn't time to teach it all. Again, tough
       choices about what is the most important to teach.
       Another area that I found interesting is "Poverty, Language, and
       Perceived Skill Level" located on page 21.  It talks about the
       less exciting curricululm offered to struggling students and
       about more rote drill and practice activities. It also talks
       about the less talk time for students in these classes. I don't
       disagree with any of these statements, and this probably fits
       some of our remedial classes, but currently I believe all of the
       programs that we use are research-based. I am not certain you
       can have it both ways. Sometimes a student needs lots of skill
       and drill to catch up. Also, it seems that with the smaller
       classes there is more time for teacher directed instruction.
       Does anyone else have an opion here?
       Lastly, I noted on page 22 the section on gender differences. I
       would like to see current statistics on gender differences in
       classrooms. Do we still ask boys more difficult questions and
       call on boys more often, etc. The reason that I question this is
       because now we have more girls going to college and completing
       degrees. Have girls caught up and passed and is it because we
       have spent years promoting girls or are other factors involved?
       Sorry that these comments weren't really about checking for
       understanding. :)
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       Re: Checking For Understanding Chap 1-2
   DIR By: Pam
       Date: June 27, 2011, 7:24 am
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       Thank you for your thoughtful comments Rebecca.  I too
       grapple with the skill and drill approach to help students that
       are way behind their peers.  Do you inspire them with excellent
       literature or drill with decodables?  The precious beginning
       readers are those that do both and thank you for the wonderful
       books that you are providing in the library for our first grade
       students.  I do think that we are doing great things with early
       intervention and small groups for our youngest students.  The
       most difficult situation for both students and teachers are
       those that move into our program.  How do you overcome two or
       three years or excellent instruction if the child is that far
       behind?
       Because of negative attitudes about school for boys, I too
       see even at an early age the girls surpassing in boys in
       academics.  I think a lot of the problem is the value that
       students place on education.  I wonder if those boys need more
       male role models.  Again, I appreciate your efforts to get dads
       to come and read to our classes.  I think it gives us a great
       opportunity to help students see the need for learning.
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