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Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: bimfreak Date: January 31, 2017, 3:11 pm
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In today's world the title of BIM Manager is being given to
anyone claiming the know BIM. This is leading to misinformation
and confusion towards BIM. You can not simply change the title
of a CAD Manager to BIM Manager, or a Revit Modeler to BIM
Manager.
thoughts?
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: brentmauti Date: January 31, 2017, 10:31 pm
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Love this topic! So within IBI Group we avoid the use of
"Manager" as it implies people leadership, staff / salary
reviews, etc. Our career framework calls it a "BIM Coordination
Specialist" and we have four levels from junior to senior with
increasing responsibility, breadth of influence, and increase in
responsibility. We tend to move it away from software-specific
particulars, but rather to be accountable for those. Thus when
fulfilling the BIM Coordinator role on a project (or BIM
Manager, etc.) we set the expectations based on the level within
the career framework, ability to lead, delegate, engage software
specialists, etc.
For us, a "BIM Manager" can have absolutely zero Revit
experience, but still manage / coordinate a project that uses
Revit as one of the authoring tools.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: Claudia Date: February 1, 2017, 8:10 am
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I am also not a fan of the title "BIM Manager", although that is
my title and the one that seems mostly commonly used/understood.
It does carry specific connotations and carry over from the CAD
Manager title. Agreed we do not want to get hung up on titles
however a title does provide insight to others about our role
and responsibilities in our organization. This is a new role
... new role should get a new title. It would be beneficial if
their is some consistency for it across the industry. 8) ::)
;) (testing emojis)
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: rwwells Date: February 1, 2017, 10:49 am
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Good thread (said the personally affected user)! That's now my
title and in my group the definition, while hazy, implies more
than just Revit-capable but does not indicate a supervisor role.
Having something 'standard' to refer to would be very helpful in
defining project roles and expectations for Project Managers
(along with salary ranges, of course). There's a pretty wide
swath of potential ability, interest and responsibility
associated with any of these "BIM" titles; I think everyone
along the chain would benefit by understanding the definition
better.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: kstalkie Date: February 2, 2017, 9:13 am
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This is a great topic! I agree that there should be an industry
guideline to provide more clarity. In my opinion, a BIM Manager
is involved with aiding the transition between a CAD workflow to
a BIM workflow. This does NOT necessarily mean that a CAD
Manager is the right person to handle this. This means that
someone who is fluent in BIM and forward thinking is working
with the executives developing strategies to improve the
efficiency of the business and motivating the company to adopt
BIM. They also have a general responsibility of overseeing the
office's BIM projects, but the day-to-day execution on the
project is handled by a BIM Coordinator.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: dave.a1981 Date: February 2, 2017, 9:31 am
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It sounds like lack of consistency and terminology is a common
issue here. I'm new to Canada and to my company (I'm from the
UK!). We are currently having discussions around the whole role
title and levels within the team. It's interesting that you are
all using the term 'BIM', my company has adopted the VDC title
which I thought was more commonly used over here, but it may
have travelled up from America!
It think the issue stems from the lack of awareness of what
'BIM' actually is. People that I speak to even today think BIM
is a technology, a 3D model, or even more frustrating Revit...
>:( Until the industry starts understanding that it a
collaborative process then we will still get this issue,
especially for job advertisements.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: kstalkie Date: February 2, 2017, 11:17 am
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Interesting point about "VDC" Dave. It is starting to appear
more and more here. It seems a little more appropriate for
management levels and helps shed the connotations that exist
with BIM. VDC implies more heavily on the fact that there is
integration with the design instead of just another tool that
you design in.
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: skeenliside Date: February 2, 2017, 11:49 am
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I see "VDC" used in Canada mostly by General Contractors and
those oriented around the construction phase of a project. Maybe
just coincidence? Or trend? Definitely from a US influence.
On another note, if our Practice Manual for BIM in Canada would
finally get published, we have some sections that get into a
more detailed analysis of roles and responsibilities.
Dave, PAS1192 has "standardized" the role of "Information
Manager". How has this helped the (UK) situation in terms of
role definitions and labelling?
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Re: Is BIM Manager a dirty word?
By: zuberio Date: May 1, 2017, 1:13 pm
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I am a VDC Manager. That being said, I've been a BIM Coordinator
for 2 years and then a VDC Coordinator for another 5 years after
that. I didn't become a Manager until I was brought into the
head office and tasked with overseeing the deployment and
support of BIM Coordinators in Eastern Canada. Thus, I believe
my title fits with the expected definition of the previous
posters in this thread. However, in my position, my previous
experience in Navisworks and Revit is definitely an asset - from
initial project setup (software strengths & weaknesses) to
ongoing project support (new BIM Coordinator needs help with
software) and into project handover (as-builts, coordination
progress history, coordination sign-off).
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