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       Clipper Leg 4 standings: 04-Dec-17 at 19:30
   DIR By: skipper7
       Date: December 4, 2017, 1:36 pm
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       Hi Skippers,
       1 . . . . . . . . Inspector Gadget  . . . . . . . . +1536.06nm
       2 . . . . . . . . B9FUN. . . .  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
       +23.3nm
       3 . . . . . . . . Lockkeeper7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
       +40.3nm up1
       4 . . . . . . . . Huckleberry Finn . . . . . . . . . . . +50.0nm
       dn1
       Well, somehow, I've managed to pass HF, plus I need to do some
       nav planning this evening, as work is being a real pain at the
       moment - don't they know I've something more important to do !!
       Sail well Skippers,  Em
       Yesterday
       1 . . . . . . . . Inspector Gadget  . . . . . . . .+1759.47nm
       2 . . . . . . . . B9FUN. . . .  . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
       +19.0nm up1
       3 . . . . . . . . Huckleberry Finn . . . . . . . . . . . +27.3nm
       dn1
       4. . . . . . . . .Lockkeeper7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
       +28.3nm
       #Post#: 285--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clipper Leg 4 standings: 04-Dec-17 at 19:30
   DIR By: RobH
       Date: December 4, 2017, 2:12 pm
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       We're in a reaching drag race at the moment, where presumably
       Mike's lack of foils will count against him, although there's no
       info on what speed difference foils (or polish!) make in the
       game.
       I see the real race has to go round the south of Tasmania, but
       we don't. So I guess the question is how far south we should go
       before heading for the Bass Strait. Decisions, decisions!
       #Post#: 286--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clipper Leg 4 standings: 04-Dec-17 at 19:30
   DIR By: B9FUN
       Date: December 4, 2017, 3:29 pm
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       Foils only seem to make a difference downwind and then by about
       half a knot 5% or so.  Not convinced that they do a lot on the
       Clipper.  I think they may work better on Volvo yachts.  I and
       LK gave a good speed comparison when we were in the same wind
       pattern and sail angle earlier this leg (we were getting the
       same speed).  I've checked with a few other UK boats, but
       messaging is rubbish in this version of VR.
       #Post#: 288--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Clipper Leg 4 standings: 04-Dec-17 at 19:30
   DIR By: B9FUN
       Date: December 6, 2017, 10:06 am
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       More info...  Foils don't take any effect until over 10 knot
       wind speed.  Then they only take effect from about 75 degrees
       Wind Angle.  At 15 knots (Wind Speed) the difference is about
       1.5 % or about 0.15 of a knot/hr boat speed.  At 20 knot (WS)
       the gain, at 75 WA, is nearer 2%.  But on wind angles greater
       than 80 degrees you get nearly 4% advantage in winds over 10
       knots (an presumably not so much on 11 knots!).
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       Re: Clipper Leg 4 standings: 04-Dec-17 at 19:30
   DIR By: RobH
       Date: December 6, 2017, 12:41 pm
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       Interesting, thank you.  Clearly makes an appreciable difference
       at certain wind strength and angles, but not a great deal
       recollecting the speeds and  the gaps opened up by foilers in
       the Vendee Globe - although I guess the Clipper boats are
       heavier and slower.  Probably worth buying for 860 points,
       though!
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