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Pulling the maxilla forward and downward
DIR By: YOLO
Date: June 29, 2014, 4:30 am
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Hi All
I am interested in face pulling to bring my maxilla forward, but
instead of upwards, i think downwards might be better for me. I
would like your input on this.
In jaw surgery, often a surgeon will do both a forward and
downward movement of the maxilla. So i'm assuming that downward
movement of the maxilla can't be always a bad idea and there are
some people that need it. However, I feel confused about this
one because I read Dr Mew's writing about the maxillary
movement; namely he associates maxilla growing downward with
backward(which is bad) and maxilla growing forward with upward
(which is good). But what if you have a short maxilla? Shouldn't
it grow forward and downward instead of forward and upward?
Here is my case history:
Many years ago as a teen, i had my bicuspids removed by a
dentist. In my 20s, I had the ALF orthodontics and osteopathic
treatments (it was about a year or a little bit less since I had
to move). I definitely saw some good changes. My cheekbones
risen, and regarding my maxilla (or was it my premaxilla)...i
felt that it did come forward, as in i noticed lip area filling
out some and my front teeth had come to be be on full display
when i smiled, you can see the full height of my upper incisors
(but not the gums) which i really liked. I had a very toothy
smile, my arches were still narrow though, so the smile was not
very wide, but just the fact that i showed full height of my
teeth made me look very youthful. There are studies that show
that high teeth smiles look more youthful and that our lips
cover the upper incisors more and more as we age.
Continuing with my case, so after I had moved, i sought out to
continue my ortho treatment, while i was inquiring about ALF
doctors in my area, i read about homeoblock appliance. Then I
found a dentist who claimed to do both ALF and homeoblock, he
advertised himself on both of the websites. In reality, he had
little knowledge of both, as i found out later. He pushed me
towards homeoblock and said it was better and that he doesn't do
ALF anymore. So from what I read about the homeoblock online , i
thought why not. I will give it a go. But his "homeoblock" was
not like the one i read about online. He put the block between
the front incisors instead of between the molars... and the
block was higher on one side...pretty strange looking. I had to
bite on the block with my upper and lower incisors when i wore
the appliance and my lower and upper incisors were about the
same level and not the upper being slightly in front of the
lower. I questioned this relentlessly but he had me convinced
that this was the way to go. So I had this treatment for about a
year, waiting to see how i will benefit from it. Long story
short, i got no benefit from it... only very bad things
happened. It placed my lower jaw forward and appeared to have
pushed my upper jaw back and upwards. When i smile now, you can
only see about 2/3 of my upper incisor teeth, unless i make the
effort to lift up my lips, which makes me look weird and not
like i'm smiling but pulling a weird face. It looks like my
maxilla had shortened because of this treatment (or maybe my
upper teeth have retruded). I also have an open bite now. I'm
very upset about this and very depressed and at first i wasn't
able to pinpoint what changed with my face. I wasn't too focused
on my teeth at the time, i had other life changes going on, such
as moving to a new place and starting over. But I knew what the
guy doing wasn't right, and i stopped treatment with him about a
year and some months later.
Now I'm really worried about what that appliance did to me,
because not only did it not help me but added even more to my
problems. I can't believe some dentists have no conscious! He
was not even using a real homeoblock. I contacted the homeoblock
inventor and he told me that is not what a homeoblock should
look like.
I'm very scared that his stupid appliance may have messed me up
permanently. I think my maxilla has shorted. I've started with
an ALF ortho again but i wasn't able to express this to him yet
because until now i hadn't realize exactly what happened. Now
I'm starting to freak out because I don't want to live with a
shorted maxilla. It's bad enough i had to live life with my
bicupids removed, not this as well.
So that is what happened to me and why i would be interested in
FP and pulling the maxilla forward and downwards. I'm hoping
that growing the maxilla down wouldn't be difficult, I think i
read Dr Mew mentioned that growing the maxilla down was the easy
thing to do, but i'm not sure if hes talking about something
entirely different from what i need. In any case, I am hoping to
avoid surgery and would like to know if any face pulling device
could help me.
I think my maxilla needs to come forward (i don't know by how
much) and downwards (by 2-3 mm).
I'd like to hear your inputs. Thanks.
#Post#: 750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pulling the maxilla forward and downward
DIR By: Connor
Date: July 3, 2014, 1:25 am
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Id contact Plato on the facepulling website.
#Post#: 838--------------------------------------------------
Re: Pulling the maxilla forward and downward
DIR By: Popcorn
Date: October 5, 2014, 12:00 am
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Did you go through with this surgery? I am considering the very
similar maxilla surgery. You should consult with Dr Wolfe in
Miami. He is Harvard educated and who I am looking into to do
same procedure for me in the future.
Please keep us updated as to your status on this.
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