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       #Post#: 728--------------------------------------------------
       Bottom teeth position
   DIR By: biggiesmokes
       Date: May 9, 2014, 5:01 am
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       New member here. Hi!
       Ill get right to it: I'm fairly new to all this ncr and stuff,
       but i have been giving the balloon therapy a shot with some
       pretty good results. My right side of my face is deficient, so
       ive been ballooning only that side. Its most definitely working
       as my eyes are becoming more even and the right side is slowing
       expanding and reaching symmetry with its opposite.
       The only concern is that my top and bottom sets of teeth don't
       meet up like they used to, mainly the molars. My maxilla has
       expanded so much laterally that it seems my mandible is trying
       to catch up but is not succeeding. If i use my tongue to feel
       the back molars, top and bottom, the last molar of my maxilla is
       obviously jutted farther out laterally then the lower one. Its
       as if the Maxilla row of teeth is expanding to form a "U", but
       the lower row of mandible teeth is closer to a "V". Hope that
       gives you a good enough visual.
       Has anyone else experienced this?
       Is this partially because I have treated one side of my face
       only?
       Is this NCR thing completely mechanical, meaning after you treat
       and you hear and feel expansion thats the limit for your face
       for that treatment, OR does your face continue to expand for
       some time after?
       Ill probably think of more questions, but i wont bombard you
       cool people with more. I'd also like to thank Ben and give him a
       internet high five for putting the forum together and also to
       all the beautiful people on here who have shared their stories
       that have given me the know how and inspiration to improve on
       myself. Soon ill put pictures up to detail this process, to
       reciprocate.
       Thanks in advance,
       Beau
       #Post#: 731--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bottom teeth position
   DIR By: bstratt25
       Date: May 18, 2014, 12:42 pm
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       Hey Beau no problem, glad I started this forum. Thanks for the
       compliments.
       I don't think the problem is because you've only targeted one
       side of your face, and I've heard of a couple other people with
       those issues in the beginning but it seemed to resolve itself -
       however people drop out of contact so often that I'm not sure,
       they never did a year-later follow up or anything. The only way
       the mandible/lower teeth change position as far as I can imagine
       is through changes to the TMJ. You might not have gotten much
       change there yet. It would be good to see an NCR doctor and ask
       them, they've seen people change in more detail than me.
       "Is this NCR thing completely mechanical, meaning after you
       treat and you hear and feel expansion thats the limit for your
       face for that treatment, OR does your face continue to expand
       for some time after"
       I used to ask my doctors this. What I've figured out is the
       visible results are instantaneous after inflating, but then the
       body rebuilds the muscles, connective tissue, ligaments, skin
       and other bits to the new configuration of the bones.
       #Post#: 734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bottom teeth position
   DIR By: Knoppe
       Date: May 24, 2014, 4:29 am
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       What Ben said. Also, I'd consider the angle of the teeth.
       Teeth move and if your face is underdeveloped, the teeth will
       naturally angle "wrong". Meaning that you'll chew them
       inwards/outwards depending on the rest of the face (mandible,
       maxilla etc).
       So. If it doesn't resolve on it's own when the face aligns. I'd
       check with a functional orthodontis.
       I'm a huge proponent of using all methods to battle
       underdeveloped faces/jaws.
       Ben: Did you have more of a head problem than jaw problem? (If
       you get what I mean)
       I'm thinking that the trauma you sustained from the car accident
       had an impact to your head (no pun intended) more than on your
       teeth/face?
       I'm asking because I'm starting to think that there are two
       major groups of patients.
       1) Head trauma
       2) Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental arches/mutilation from
       "traditional orthodontics"
       I'm definatly in the second category. For me, orthodontics and
       face pulling/NCR is needed since my teeth where messed up
       (narrow arches, bad angle) but for some, NCR only seems to be
       enough. The ALF and bracers have helped quite a bit so far but
       my first treatment with Ian produced INSANE results in terms of
       posture and clarity. None of the treatments by themselves are
       the answer to my case.
       I'm also a big proponent of getting assessed by a pro.
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       Re: Bottom teeth position
   DIR By: bstratt25
       Date: June 16, 2014, 9:11 am
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       Hey Knoppe,
       I actually had both but about 80-90% of my problem was caused by
       head trauma.
       My wisdom teeth were extracted and my dental arches were
       collapsed but it wasn't extreme
       I agree about those categories, and I don't think people whose
       problems are caused by "Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental
       arches/mutilation from "traditional orthodontics" respond as
       well as head trauma people to NCR/ballooning.
       #Post#: 745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bottom teeth position
   DIR By: Knoppe
       Date: June 18, 2014, 7:54 am
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       Ah ok so your teeth/jaw problems resolved when you sorted the
       cranial stuff out?
       Cool. I've seen some comments regarding the teeth and figured
       there's a need to clarify the different kinds of structural
       problems one might have. My face is collapsed because of poor
       nutrition and mouth breathin (Dr.Mew "stuff") which requires a
       whole different approach. Just so that people get a feel for
       what the possible remedies are.
       /Knoppe
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       > Hey Knoppe,
       >
       > I actually had both but about 80-90% of my problem was caused
       by head trauma.
       >
       > My wisdom teeth were extracted and my dental arches were
       collapsed but it wasn't extreme
       >
       > I agree about those categories, and I don't think people whose
       problems are caused by "Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental
       arches/mutilation from "traditional orthodontics" respond as
       well as head trauma people to NCR/ballooning.
       >
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