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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Matt91
       Date: December 31, 2013, 4:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: Knoppe link ---
       >
       > I'm not so in to cranial discrepancies, I'm more into
       occlusional problems seeing as I myself suffer from a bad bite.
       How're your dental arches? Wide and U-shaped or narrowmand
       V-shaped?
       > Nutrition and hormonal balances? Have you checked your thyroid
       levels?
       > There are many, many rocks to turn over. I'd try NCR out and
       if you can't feel any differance, I'd try checking into
       nutrition. Hell, I advoce anyone and everyone to stay the hell
       away from grains. It made a whole difference to me. I've been
       gluten/grain free for a year and my belly's soooo much better.
       Grains may make you deppressed.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd say that my dental arches are U-shaped.
       Not sure about hormones, thyroid levels, and all that. Can they
       cause these problems?
       My learning difficulties were evident at a very young age. When
       I was learning to walk, for example. Given that my mum was
       vaccine aware, there wasn't really a whole lot of opportunity
       for my brain to be damaged by other means. I wasn't dropped on
       my head or anything.
       This leads me to believe that the forceps birth was responsible,
       which is well known and understood as a possible cause of ADD
       and similar problems, by everybody; allopaths and otherwise.
       If it does turn out to be the cause, it stands to reason that
       restructuring the cranium to it's original blueprint, would
       facilitate a decline in symptomology, and perhaps even
       eradication of the problem altogether, in time.
       That's the hope. Maybe it's a 'pipe dream', but if it were
       possible... wow. It would mean an entirely different life for
       me.
       A better life.
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Matt91
       Date: January 4, 2014, 1:18 pm
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       Can anyone tell me anything else about NCR?
       Contraindications? Dietary changes that I should make?
       Possibility of complications?
       Has anyone else on here seen Ian Hedley?
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: FebruaryRichard
       Date: January 4, 2014, 5:17 pm
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       This is what Ian Hedley looks like today:
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       (Taken off his Facebook)
       #Post#: 520--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Matt91
       Date: January 4, 2014, 6:09 pm
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       Are there any 'before' photos of him around?
       Just wondering whether anyone here has actually seen the guy for
       treatment and can offer their experience?
       I'm still a tad unsure as to whether go ahead or not. Not to
       cast aspersions on any personalities or claims made on this
       forum, but there are still many question marks in my head,
       surrounding the treatment. I've got parents to convince, and
       even if I can pull that off, it's not going to be a breeze
       getting to the place, paying for the hotel, paying for the
       treatment, et cetera.
       There are some pretty negative testimonials on the web, which
       doesn't help matters.
       Trying be as objective as possible. A realist. How much of a
       risk is it? These guys are all certified and insured, right?
       And another thing...
       Isn't/wasn't Jesse Jutkowitz of ABC fame, a Scientologist? What
       prompted the disciplinaries, reported violations and the licence
       revocation?
       I'm not one to prejudge other's belief systems unduly, but
       Scientology doesn't exactly have a great rep in the whole
       'ethics' department, their doctrines and beliefs are just
       bizarre beyond all consideration, and their conduct is creepy in
       the extreme.
       Too many in the alternative health field, are seemingly cashing
       in, unscrupulously, on the growing disillusionment with
       allopathy. Not aimed at anyone here. But it is plainly obvious
       that some names floating around in the zeitgeist, have succumbed
       to the very same greed that has so corrupted the mainstream,
       alleged 'medicine' that exists today. The same 'medicine' that
       results in several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of iatrogenic deaths
       annually, in the United States alone. I know that people have
       got expenses, and we all need to survive, but my...
       Serving greed, avarice, ego, and lust for power, does NOT a
       'spiritual' person make, no matter the professed beliefs, or
       lack thereof.
       #Post#: 521--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Knoppe
       Date: January 4, 2014, 7:17 pm
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       There are before and after pictures on platos's site.
       What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to read
       them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who heard a
       crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and the two
       deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an infant).
       Appart from those, do you have any more? Which practitioner
       harmed people?
       You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread
       about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments
       from one of those practitioners.
       In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic. Listen
       to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it. There
       may be other ways for you to reach your goals.
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Matt91
       Date: January 4, 2014, 7:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: Knoppe link ---
       >
       > There are before and after pictures on platos's site.
       >
       > What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to
       read them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who
       heard a crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and
       the two deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an
       infant). Appart from those, do you have any more? Which
       practitioner harmed people?
       >
       > You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread
       about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments
       from one of those practitioners.
       >
       > In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic.
       Listen to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it.
       There may be other ways for you to reach your goals.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The 'Neurocranial Restructuring Works' group on
       dailystrength.org hosts a bunch of threads... a few of them are
       negative responses.
       There's this guy;
  HTML http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9343387
       This lady apparently had bad results, but cannot find the
       details;
  HTML http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9624380
       One here, don't know if it's the one you refer to;
  HTML http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1478284
       There are some negatives on this forum, even, if only minor
       niggles.
       There are a couple of others that I cannot find at the moment,
       but that my mum has found. One woman was complaining of back
       pain and associated troubles. One guy was reporting dental
       issues?
       There are plenty of positive testimonials, and I'm leaning
       towards having it done, just need some more information to
       cement the determination.
       I'm sure that we are all wise enough here to appreciate that
       those most iniquitous allopathic profiteers of human misery are
       capable of fielding false testimonials in order to intimidate
       potential NCR aficionados into inaction.
       The possibility that some NCR practitioners may be downplaying
       the risks of the procedure through multiple proxy accounts on
       these websites, also exists.
       My gut says, 'do it.' There are some lingering doubts in my
       mind, and, also, in the mind of my folks.
       As my username would suggest, I'm 22, and I'm not financially
       independent, so my parents still hold sway over what I do and
       when.
       But I still feel that this has the possibility, in time, to
       improve my situation rather dramatically. And if my PIQ was to
       match my VIQ, I'd have much more of a future to look forward to,
       if only in that I will be much more capable of coping with
       life's challenges, which tend to be especially pronounced when
       you refuse to be a servile, self-deluded sycophant.
       I don't have much to look forward to, otherwise.
       Meh. We all got to die sometime. Must play some more Skyrim
       beforehand, though. :D
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: bstratt25
       Date: January 4, 2014, 9:56 pm
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       I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my
       unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still
       might help clarify things for you
       More than a million people have been treated with NCR and BNS
       according to the doctors I talked to back in 2011. Statistically
       speaking the number of people who have negative results are
       actually very low (according to them - yes bias may play a role
       in these stats). We've got to look at the context of why certain
       people had a negative result. If I were you I'd look at every
       negative case I could find and figure out if what happened might
       possibly happen to you and weigh the possible benefits vs risks.
       For example hypermobility, I think of it as persistent "cranial
       sensitivity" will definitely occur with continual or overly
       powerful treatments and that's one of the reasons people take
       breaks. This is easily known, when I lay down at night on my
       pillow after the 3rd or 4th treatment, I feel a light ache on
       that part of my head due to the pressure of the pillow. NCR
       doctors will only treat people 4 times per month (1 consecutive
       series) to wait for things to become more "solid" again before
       treating, for this reason supposedly. For the vast majority of
       people, they get back to normal (insensitive/immoble) quickly,
       and the more they have NCR the faster they recover after a
       series but it's not understood why there are a few rare people
       (like the two people in that thread you linked) who remain
       sensitive, or develop other issues surrounding that. My laymans
       guess is it's because they had a major head injury during a time
       when they're very sensitive. Everyone knows that you should
       avoid hitting your head or doing something that puts yourself at
       unnecessary risk to your skull after NCR because the injury will
       be worse (like those people in the thread).  Yeah the NCR
       specialists will definitely downplay negative results and upplay
       positive ones to the extent of human nature - I mean my doctor
       was eager to jump to assumptions that it helped me with things
       that I later learned were more placebo effects than anything
       else. But I'm not going to go back and correct the testimonial
       now for those little things - you know? That happens in all
       forms of medicine. And on that note I think the extent of the
       allopathic world attacking therapies like this wouldn't go so
       far as fake reviews... it's enough just to have Stephen Barrett
       write a crappy, shallow article about NCR/BNS on his high-ranked
       webpage; and to keep control/persuasion over the editors of
       major medical journals. Howell and company have been having a
       really hard time submitting anything to a medical journal from
       what I've gathered, but I think they've got a couple articles in
       a lesser known journal, somewhere...
       People can have negative results from massage, and this is way
       more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious
       and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or
       something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of
       course a possibility.
       I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good to
       be cautious.
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Knoppe
       Date: January 5, 2014, 6:53 am
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       Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and biggest
       issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye, barley, oats.
       In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple of months of
       STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
       dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like processed
       milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat allergy.
       How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you
       react to eating food?
       Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like these
       that you have problems with?
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       Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
   DIR By: Matt91
       Date: January 5, 2014, 8:15 am
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       --- Quote from: bstratt25 link ---
       >
       > I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my
       unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still
       might help clarify things for you.
       >
       > ...........
       >
       > People can have negative results from massage, and this is way
       more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious
       and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or
       something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of
       course a possibility.
       >
       > I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good
       to be cautious.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, we're pretty much agreed, Ben. In attitude and approach,
       we're simpatico. It's my parents that could do with more
       convincing, mainly... intuitively, I felt that there is
       something to this, as soon as I had heard of it.
       Amazing that the self-appointed medical authorities have
       overlooked this. Probably purposefully.
       There's always a risk with everything, of course. Not least life
       itself.
       Your points are noted. :-)
       --- Quote from: Knoppe link ---
       >
       > Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and
       biggest issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye,
       barley, oats. In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple
       of months of STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
       > dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like
       processed milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat
       allergy.
       >
       > How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you
       react to eating food?
       > Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like
       these that you have problems with?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks for your continued thoughts and insights.
       I believe that my PIQ deficits result in more than just brain
       fog and memory deficits. It is also the processing,
       interpreting, and sorting of information. In my case, it is much
       more debilitating than the more common complaints associated
       with mild ADD. A gap of 30 IQ points between VIQ and PIQ is
       pretty pronounced, even amongst 'ADD' sufferers. That's two full
       standard deviations, if the mean IQ is 100. The gap is even
       larger between the different elements of the overall IQ scores
       for each.
       Bit embarrassing when you sound like a physicist, but struggle
       to find your way to class.
       As much as people discount IQ tests nowadays, in my case, taking
       a formal WAIS test was illuminating as to why I appear so smart,
       but cannot intake information and work as quickly as my VIQ
       would suggest. A definite cognitive functioning disparity was
       clearly visible in my results. Given my delayed developmental
       milestones, this was evident at a very young age, which somewhat
       excludes some of the 'later environmental' explanations.
       I'm of a fairly normal build. Pretty slim overall, but in a
       healthy way, rather than anorexic. Definitely not fat. Average
       height for a European; around 6'1" or so.
       Eating food I'm alright... no notable reactions to certain
       foods. I don't eat red meat, as a general rule. Haven't eaten
       beef in a long time.
       I do feel the cold somewhat, but not noticeably more than those
       around me.
       My energy is currently pretty low, but I think that may just be
       the mild depression that comes with 'awakening', an emotionally
       compromised past (was seriously considering suicide at 13) and
       less than ideal life circumstances.
       A myriad of attack vectors are being aimed at the general human
       populace. From EMF's, chemtrails, and now Fukushima... they are
       trying their level best to kill many of us off. It leaves us
       with many more possible sources of ill-health to consider,
       unfortunately.
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