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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Chromeo
Date: December 6, 2013, 10:18 pm
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Thanks for the explanation regarding your NCR regime Tyler :)
That's interesting that you repeat the process so many times in
each turbinate. I'm going to try that from now on. By the way, I
have also found that doing some face exercises before I do NCR
helps as it seems to warm up my face and relax the muscles more.
It is like the balloon goes deeper in the turbinate when I have
done the exercises before doing NCR. I do something called the
face yoga method by Fumiko Takatsu and especially focus on the
exercises for the jaw and neck.
HTML http://faceyogamethod.com/blog.<br
/>You can find her videos on youtube also.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: December 7, 2013, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: Tyler link ---
>
> I cannot help but smiling when I read what you have written,
Complexx. It is making me blush. And for what it is worth, I
truly dislike those terms, as well. They were invented by
know-it-all's who care only about defending their supposed
knowledge rather than exposing any form of genuine truth, so
ironically it is they who are the "quacks" because they are
never qualified to explain anything that they attempt to explain
with their flimsy logic and reason, making their sentiments as
hollow and instinctual as the violent quacking of a mallard
duck.
>
> Sadly, I do not have access to my old profile pics anymore.
They were all lost when my laptop was ruined. But my face has
expanded considerably, yes, and as my maxilla is moved outward,
my mandible has moved forward, as well.
>
>
HTML http://i.imgur.com/v7mTuDE.jpg
>
> If you consider that the maxilla bone is connected to the
mandible at the point I indicated with an X, then by moving the
maxilla bone forward, you will also draw the mandible bone out.
Likewise, when the maxilla is pushed back, I reckon that the
mandible will also become jammed back, as well, making the face
appear longer. I believe that this is why Plato says that
face-pulling will cause the mandible to "swing out".
>
> My face, overall, has not shortened considerably, although
with NCR and face-pulling working in tandem, my skull goes
through periods of shortening and lengthening as it strives
toward the ideal. When I face-pull, my face is inclined to
become shorter since my lower jaw moves in the way I described
in the previous paragraph; however, when I perform NCR, my skull
expands in all directions, which causes my skull to obtain the
same length that it had before. In time, I predict that my face
will, relatively speaking, appear shorter since I can tell its
width still has a ways to go, meanwhile I think its length has
come close to the end of its expansion.
>
> As for the muscles that you are talking about, I am not
certain if they have grown or developed significantly. The back
of my jaw has increased more significantly in width than my
teeth, which makes the rear area more apparent when viewed from
the front, and probably contributes to the chiseled look. As my
mandible has moved out from a V-shape to take the optimal
U-shape, the muscles have moved out and perhaps get more
exercise now, too.
>
> I also took another picture for you, this time having pulled
my hair back so you can clearly see the shape of my entire face
- and about face exercises, I can confirm that they work. I am
using Carolyns Facial Fitness method, which you can find here:
HTML http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/
HTML http://www.carolynsfacialfitness.com/.
The results are quite
dramatic, particularly on somebody who is older than myself, so
I encourage you to check out her web site! Also, if you will
consider passing the CD along once to somebody else once you
have mastered the exercises, I will send my copy of the CD to
you, provided you are willing to pay for the shipping costs
since I cannot afford that currently. I live in southern
Ontario.
>
--- End Quote ---
Tyler, it's so great to see you back posting again. And your
face is very much different than before.
I do the Carole Maggio Facercise which is a great facial
workout. I may order the facial exercises from Carolyn too, and
work them in with the Facercise ones. I also have a Dermal
Tone, which is now discontinued. Sometimes, those can be found
on eBay.
I think you can still get un-used units from this site...
The Dermal Tone Facial technique has been successfully used in
clinics and beauty salons worldwide for over 40 years. It was
originally developed in Europe by a team of doctors and
physicists for the medical application in the potential
treatment of facial paralysis and Bell's palsy. These units were
designed to exercise muscles fast, effectively and safely.
The old Dermal Tone site is down, because they discontinued it,
so you can get it from this site.
HTML http://www.beautifulskinforlife.com/
Click on the Non-Surgical Facelift Exerciser
Here is a profile pic of me. The first one was during the 3rd
NCR session. The second one on the right, is after SIX NCR
session. A huge difference, just 3 more sessions make. I
intend to do NCR for a couple of more years, then it's
maintenance thereafter.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Connor
Date: December 9, 2013, 12:29 pm
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Holy smokes Messiah! Huuge difference you look very pretty :).
The chin and the cheek bones...just wow! haha and to think
that's just from six sessions of only NCR.....kinda makes me
wonder about my self treatment which is like over 60 sessions by
now...the hell am I doing wrong :P
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Tyler
Date: December 9, 2013, 12:58 pm
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Perhaps I can help you to improve your method, Connor. Send me a
PM that describes your method in some detail, and if I am able
to offer you some suggestions to improve it, I will do so -
however before I help you, I have promised to help viridian
first.
Also, I agree that you look fabulous, Donna! You appear so much
more confident and present now. I am happy that you are making
great strides!
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: December 9, 2013, 6:35 pm
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Thanks guys! I wish it would make my nose smaller. lol
I think I'm going to try that
[URL=
HTML http://www.nosemagic.com/]NoseMagic[/URL]
or
[URL=
HTML http://nasofix.com/]NasoFix[/URL]
thing which reshapes and
decreases the size of the nose. It is also non-surgical.
My nose looks okay from the profile view, but it too long and
big at the bottom from the frontal view. It bothers me.
I'm still going to go for facial laser resurfacing in two or
three months, but I have good topical and internal products to
help too.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: viridian
Date: December 11, 2013, 2:58 am
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Yeah I'm with Connor, Holy Smokes Messiah!
You look great!
And no way are your cheeks too big, they are super cute. And I'm
sure your nose is fine too.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: December 11, 2013, 8:42 am
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--- Quote from: viridian link ---
>
> Yeah I'm with Connor, Holy Smokes Messiah!
> You look great!
> And no way are your cheeks too big, they are super cute. And
I'm sure your nose is fine too.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks hon, but NCR has made my nose wider. I'm kind of ****ed
about it. In the beginning earlier sessions, the nose was fine,
but now in pics, afterwards, it's getting wider. It's already
too long and big for my face. It looks great from the side, but
frontal view of it and the buccal fat, is very disheartening. I
do not want surgery, so I'm at a loss.
Regards, the cheeks, I'm referring to my lower cheeks, the
buccal fat as they call "hamster" cheeks. I do not have a
distinct definition between the upper checks and lower cheeks
(the ones unwanted). They are obstructing my V-line. I've
always had them, and hated them, and am the only one in my
family that has them. In some people, the buccal fat blend in
and runs into jowls and double chins.
Here is my youngest sister and check out those cheeks, and no
lower cheek fat. She's always had that perfect face with the
V-shape and perfect Ogee Curve. We do have the same mother AND
father. lol
HTML http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4218/vtjd.jpg
I found another gal, that has the same problem with the lower
cheeky stuff. Here's a pic of what I'm talking about. She
doesn't like hers either..
[img]
HTML http://ei.realself.com/full/571b221c2c3b127b3fad398b8a12a748/userimage-121686.JPG[/img]
I don't want the fat pad removed by surgery, but I want it
shrunk with a facial contouring device. I found the Alma Lasers
VShape by Accent Ultra that is for an improved Ogee Curve and
V-line. Thankfully, one of those are close by.
I like my profile SOOOO much better, but the full frontal of my
face still leaves a lot to be desired. I'm looking at TWO more
years of NCR. Have to keep in mind that I'm older than most of
you all, so I have to do a tad more than the rest of you. :D
I'm still dealing with the brow ptosis on the right side. The
right eye did come up with NCR, but that brow is still heavy and
dropping on that side. I have low heavy eyebrows with a heavy
muscular wad. I don't know if it's a damaged nerve, extra
tissue or a problem with the frontalis muscle. I won't do any
botox or surgery, because I don't like things added, but don't
mind some things taken away (extra fat, for example).
For the time being, I'm doing microdermabrasion, facial
exercises with a Dermal Tone EMS type of facial unit.
I am saving up for a profractional C02 full face, eyes and neck
lasering, and will do one section at a time. I'm going to start
with forehead and eyes, and then another time do the rest of the
lower face. I have good skin quality thankfully, due to the
nutrition, but it seems like I have extra fullness and extra
where it is not needed. it's just so weird, as I can't pinpoint
exactly what the problem is, but none of my sisters have any of
these problems. My youngest sister has the best face of all of
us, with the best symmetry.
I'm still looking at the Nasofix, as I really don't want surgery
for that either. I like the shape of my nose, but would like
the same shape, only smaller.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Tyler
Date: December 11, 2013, 8:48 am
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I hope that you manage to reveal your jawline to your
satisfaction soon. In the meantime, you may wish to try the
facial exercise which tones the muscle underneath the chin -
Carolyn calls it the "Double Chin Tuck".
To perform it, you must stick your tongue out as far as possible
while pushing your chin down against your chest, and do this 5
times for a count of 10. You may need to pull your head back a
bit if it sticks out, since this makes the exercise more
effective.
I had a very slight double chin myself, which made the shape of
my chin less apparent from a profile view. But this exercise
helped to reduce the fat in that area, so that my chin now has a
more chiseled appearance.
I hope that this helps!
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: December 11, 2013, 9:07 am
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--- Quote from: Tyler link ---
>
> I hope that you manage to reveal your jawline to your
satisfaction soon. In the meantime, you may wish to try the
facial exercise which tones the muscle underneath the chin -
Carolyn calls it the "Double Chin Tuck".
>
> To perform it, you must stick your tongue out as far as
possible while pushing your chin down against your chest, and do
this 5 times for a count of 10. You may need to pull your head
back a bit if it sticks out, since this makes the exercise more
effective.
>
> I had a very slight double chin myself, which made the shape
of my chin less apparent from a profile view. But this exercise
helped to reduce the fat in that area, so that my chin now has a
more chiseled appearance.
>
> I hope that this helps!
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm already doing facial exercises, but it's a problem with
buccal fat and probable nerve damage. I do the Carole Maggio
nose pump, as she calls it.
Here's a youtube video of it being performed.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcqpjW7P4Pw
It seems to be a tissue distribution problem too. Hillary
mentioned the small dents in my forehead, due to missing tissue,
and she showed me a small area on her, but it doesn't show. I
don't have a double chin, thank God, but do have some lymphedema
under my chin.
So I will continue with all the above, but will get the facial
contouring to slim down lower face, while doing NCR to keep the
bone structure stable.
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Re: Tyler's Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: December 11, 2013, 9:27 am
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More facial exercises in one of Carole Maggio's classes....
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiqMYLoFMF4
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