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Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: test_123 Date: April 19, 2018, 6:00 am
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I honestly cant make out if my maxilla is recessed, protruding.
Or if i need to continue losing weight. Im quite confident in my
looks otherwise. But if i turn my face side ways it looks plain
flat and horrible.
Pics
HTML https://imgur.com/a/r2uNgGj
#Post#: 2714--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Progress Date: April 23, 2018, 4:54 am
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Your strong features mask your maldevelopment well. You have
good forward growth. Based on lacking orbital support and jaw
contour, it looks like your biggest problem is narrow palate.
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: test_123 Date: April 24, 2018, 6:18 am
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[quote author=Progress link=topic=366.msg2714#msg2714
date=1524477283]
Your strong features mask your maldevelopment well. You have
good forward growth. Based on lacking orbital support and jaw
contour, it looks like your biggest problem is narrow palate.
[/quote]
I may agree. But my palate isnt really narrow. my teeth is
almost as wide as my cheekbones thus making my palate good? i
may post intraoral later hehe. Also, i have had quite an rapid
weightloss from 244 pounds to 158 pounds and i feel like i still
have fat and thick skin around my face and neck. So this might
be causing the lack of contour
//test
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Tyler Date: April 25, 2018, 9:54 am
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I think your problem is just that you're thin.
I am working on that problem myself, and as I'm succeeding, I'm
seeing that my cheeks fill out a bit at the sides and in the
front, just overall gaining a bit more volume.
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Tyler Date: April 25, 2018, 11:10 am
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I've had to learn that there is a difference between gaining
mass through fat, protein, and now what appears to be gaining
mass through sulfur oddly enough.
I've learned and studied that sulfur is a substance that helps
to 'bind stuff' and proteins together, so may turn out to be
just as important as some healthy fats and proteins in
maintaining a beautiful weight and body mass.
When I consumed fats to gain weight mainly, then it made my face
a bit fat. But now as I'm using a sulfur-based supplement, some
healthy fats, and only some protein, it appears to be a good new
step in the right direction.
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: test_123 Date: April 29, 2018, 1:51 am
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[quote author=Tyler link=topic=366.msg2717#msg2717
date=1524672623]
I've had to learn that there is a difference between gaining
mass through fat, protein, and now what appears to be gaining
mass through sulfur oddly enough.
I've learned and studied that sulfur is a substance that helps
to 'bind stuff' and proteins together, so may turn out to be
just as important as some healthy fats and proteins in
maintaining a beautiful weight and body mass.
When I consumed fats to gain weight mainly, then it made my face
a bit fat. But now as I'm using a sulfur-based supplement, some
healthy fats, and only some protein, it appears to be a good new
step in the right direction.
[/quote]
Hmm im gonna look into it! But isnt low body fat the best way to
show off your bone structure? facial fat tends to add up and
start making you look all droopy. Atleast in my case.
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Tyler Date: May 2, 2018, 4:07 pm
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From my experience, I need a certain ratio of saturated fat,
protein, and now it appears also 'sulfur' in my body. That
appears to me to be how and why I look quite good now to myself.
I learned, sulfur acts like the 'glue' which sticks proteins and
whatever else together. It is the stuff that 'binds' the matter
of our bodies together, in a poetic sense.
I did notice that when I tried to get all of my facial mass from
milk fat, it gave me a puffy appearance, and my bone structure
became lost underneath the excessive fat.
But too little fat and my face became "too boney", so there was
no soft padding to soften my bones and show the comfortable side
of my personality. In my own words, I feel that I looked too
"sleek" and emaciated, although my cheek bones were more
noticeable. It really gave me a harsh edge to my appearance, and
I didn't like it much because I thought it gave out a hard and
even emotionally cold impression.
As I am putting a proportional balance of everything into my
body however, so some saturated fats, some unsaturated fats,
some protein, and some sulfur - but none of them too an
excessive amount - then I can see my face shape and fundamental
bone structure very well, but the softness of the fat and the
'binding effect' of the sulfur appears to have just built up
everything just slightly so that there is also a pleasant
softness there too which is not too highly effeminate because it
is 'too puffy'.
Here's me from a few days ago (as of May 2nd, 2018), I think it
shows how the effect is like ... 'filling out' my face, but not
making it too puffy or doughy, but not letting it be so sleek or
gaunt either. I used to have reaally long hollow eyes before
because of that. It's actually so wild for me to see that all
along my face looked most harmonious when it is more rounded and
soft. It's like seeing another human completely, although it
looks more like how I really feel I am supposed to look like
nevertheless. (Still look stoned though, since I still have
pretty tired blood.)
HTML https://imgur.com/a/KywxXSJ
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Tyler Date: May 3, 2018, 2:13 pm
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Here's a few more pics, trying to you show what I mean here.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/JnJT0Ez
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fAV4dkk
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fRnEqnR
Man I don't know how to get that same cheek-bone highlighting
lighting you got in your one photo, so I can't really show my
cheek's mass fully there.
But, see how it just sort of ... has some mass to it, like a
little soft padding, without being overly puffy?
We are white, and I have just observed in life, that not all
white humans have these huge Nordic facial bones like some of
the ancestors had.
But imo, check out a lady like Ms Reese Witherspoon
(respectfully of course, I hate to gawk at faces now since she's
a fellow human being and a person of our kind after all).
In some of her pics where she lost some weight, you can see it
makes her cheeks and face look too long and gaunt.
But when there's proper mass there, it just ... looks right, and
it's like a miracle how the cheeks even seem to get up there to
their rightful position, place, size, etc., and the whole face
just sort of makes itself proportional, like through a magic
miracle or like there is hidden sculptor there putting
everything into beautiful position and proportion.
So we are white, and I think don't "just" need to yank away
trying to get cheekbones like a Nordic viking. There's ALSO the
nutritional side to everything, and the "soft mass" which gives
our face its dimension and proportional beauty.
Hell, when I am getting my "fleshy matter" all up and in nice
shape, it really even appears to be doing a lot of the work of
shifting my facial bones around on its own, and right now I keep
on touching under my chin at how weirdly flat my jaw is compared
to how it used to be. My neck is getting so straight on its own,
especially since I sleep on the floor on a sleeping bag too I
think. And I hardly even do face-pulling anymore, and probably
won't go near NCR anymore, since obeying nature's laws and
recommendations (by getting all my needed elements, minerals,
vitamins, zinc, vit C, sulfur, protein, fats, etc. and getting
sleep), seem to be gently sculpting my appearance fine on their
own.
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: test_123 Date: May 5, 2018, 4:00 am
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[quote author=Tyler link=topic=366.msg2721#msg2721
date=1525374784]
Here's a few more pics, trying to you show what I mean here.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/JnJT0Ez
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fAV4dkk
HTML https://imgur.com/a/fRnEqnR
Man I don't know how to get that same cheek-bone highlighting
lighting you got in your one photo, so I can't really show my
cheek's mass fully there.
But, see how it just sort of ... has some mass to it, like a
little soft padding, without being overly puffy?
We are white, and I have just observed in life, that not all
white humans have these huge Nordic facial bones like some of
the ancestors had.
But imo, check out a lady like Ms Reese Witherspoon
(respectfully of course, I hate to gawk at faces now since she's
a fellow human being and a person of our kind after all).
In some of her pics where she lost some weight, you can see it
makes her cheeks and face look too long and gaunt.
But when there's proper mass there, it just ... looks right, and
it's like a miracle how the cheeks even seem to get up there to
their rightful position, place, size, etc., and the whole face
just sort of makes itself proportional, like through a magic
miracle or like there is hidden sculptor there putting
everything into beautiful position and proportion.
So we are white, and I think don't "just" need to yank away
trying to get cheekbones like a Nordic viking. There's ALSO the
nutritional side to everything, and the "soft mass" which gives
our face its dimension and proportional beauty.
Hell, when I am getting my "fleshy matter" all up and in nice
shape, it really even appears to be doing a lot of the work of
shifting my facial bones around on its own, and right now I keep
on touching under my chin at how weirdly flat my jaw is compared
to how it used to be. My neck is getting so straight on its own,
especially since I sleep on the floor on a sleeping bag too I
think. And I hardly even do face-pulling anymore, and probably
won't go near NCR anymore, since obeying nature's laws and
recommendations (by getting all my needed elements, minerals,
vitamins, zinc, vit C, sulfur, protein, fats, etc. and getting
sleep), seem to be gently sculpting my appearance fine on their
own.
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I see what you mean.
Well as a nord myself, ive seen all kinds of Facial bones. If we
take my mother for example which is of german ancestry. She got
high cheekbones. But they're hardly visible. And i see this with
germans overall, they tend to have high cheekbones that lack
visibility which rather gives them the impression of a long
face. When it comes to my dad which is fully swedish. He got a
very round warrior alike skull with potruding cheekbones and a
short pointy nose, and im a mix between both of them so i have
high cheekbones from my mother and the potruding features
(maxilla) from my dad. My cheekbones doesnt follow along as well
as his does tho. So i guess this is a genetic game you have to
be lucky with cuz ive been reading around on ''gymforums'' about
germans that seem to not be able to get their cheekbones visible
no matter how hard they try. Im gonna try to drop the milk since
i drink far too much, and see if anything happens. This pic was
taken a few days ago and as you can see on the shadow outline my
forward growth doesnt seem to do much for my cheekbones. And any
more fat wouldnt do much either i think.
(yes i shaved my head hehe)
HTML https://imgur.com/ZtwLaWl
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Re: Is my maxilla retruded or potruding?
By: Tyler Date: May 6, 2018, 12:59 pm
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I suppose it may not, but you are really a good-looking guy
after all, but I think with a frown like that you might fear off
some of the prettier girls ehehehe. But then, perhaps not if
your father looks like a warrior himself! ;D :D
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