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What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: TheGreatWork Date: July 19, 2017, 7:35 pm
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I've forgotten the name of the user, but the whole thread and
all the posts are gone. Did something happen, is the user still
around?
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: reenochrobinson Date: July 19, 2017, 9:31 pm
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[quote author=reenochrobinson link=topic=305.msg2422#msg2422
date=1500077357]
Asdfasdf123's old thread seems to have been removed where he
reported that the "amateur" expander maxes out around 8mm.
[/quote]
I mentioned this in your other thread a few days ago. I have no
idea what happened. It disappeared a while ago and asdfasdf123
hasn't posted since. He only has a few posts left listed on his
profile.
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: dadfa Date: July 21, 2017, 12:32 am
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Someone deleted it.
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: Progress Date: July 21, 2017, 8:15 am
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He seemed like a sketchy fellow, wouldn't even post parts of his
face due to "professional reasons". He was also hellbent on
promoting palate expansion as the most important treatment one
can do. Either overly paranoid or a bracesshop shill ;D
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: TheGreatWork Date: July 21, 2017, 1:11 pm
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[quote author=Progress link=topic=309.msg2445#msg2445
date=1500642958]
He seemed like a sketchy fellow, wouldn't even post parts of his
face due to "professional reasons". He was also hellbent on
promoting palate expansion as the most important treatment one
can do. Either overly paranoid or a bracesshop shill ;D
[/quote]
Dun kill my hopes Progress :'(
I went to an ortho who was all about the ALF, Endonasal, and
orthotropics philosophy. He said more force than ALF was needed,
so he showed me a few palate expanders no different than the
ones we know about*. He says up to 1cm forward expansion and 7mm
width. Now, he wants to go real slow like. Sneaky beaky like,
creep so slow that it takes 2 years like. Also facial changes
are minimal, the palate just expands
Now our nigga Mr. Mew understands how the entire thing needs to
move as one piece. No growing the alveolar bone or pushing the
teeth. The maxilla must be expanded and moved upward via growth
along the palatial suture and pressure up and forwards by the
tongue/appliance.
And the orthos I've seen say 1cm in 2 years, where as the OP on
the thread on self expansion was going 1mm a week, AND Mew says
1mm a week. Which activates growth and movement along the
sutures instead of local movement - according to multiple
studies (I'm compiling all this info gimme a second on the
sources. I might toss them all into a single post)
So, according to everything I have tried to dig up on the topic
in the past 3 years I can get the expansion I need by buying the
appliance myself and using a higher rate of expansion than the
traditional dentist/orthodontists know but from what we have
understood through our research.
There is definitely going to be the counter of "appeal to
authority" of dentists/orthos having years of schooling that
makes their opinions the ultimate authority on this topic. We
already know that they are wrong about extraction orthodontics -
when really the palate needs to be expanded. We already know
that they believe the sutures fuse after puberty - which we
know is wrong through multiple studies AND because I sent ~30
emails to dentists asking for adult suture palate expansion and
~7 in MY AREA got back to me saying that they have routinely
successful results while ~23 say it is impossible.
So using the info from the ortho (Free consult) I can purchase
the same appliance that he intends to use on me over 1 years,
but use the appliance as our other research suggests and go 1mm
per week. Research shows I could spend $250 and 4 months instead
of 2 years and $12 000.
I don't intend to go at any set rate of expansion - the body can
tell me if I'm doing something incorrectly. I'm also getting the
ABC chiro work done and will probably be into the endonasal once
the appliance arrives (since I can't order yet).
I feel very comfortable and optimistic to perform this procedure
myself. I'm sitting on a bunch of information that could just be
pure speculation if this doesn't work out, but a complete gem if
it does. I've got X-Rays and analysis of my current
skull/teeth/spine. So I'm going to continue with ABC and
endonsal, and see the expansion results, and then mew my way
home to where my dome piece is supposed to be.
The results I see both in the mirror and on X-rays etc in about
6 months are what is going to tell me if I was barking at a
shadow or if what we think we are understanding about the human
body is truth or a mirage.
#Post#: 2447--------------------------------------------------
Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: asdfasdf123 Date: July 21, 2017, 3:00 pm
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Hi guys,
Due to professional reasons I had to shut the thread down as
some personal information was accidentally leaked out on a
couple of posts, a mistake on my part. Apologies to everyone on
the forum.
With that being out of the way, I won't be posting on the forum
anytime soon, perhaps ever. I feel I've contributed enough to
this forum (and to bracesshop being backed up with orders-- cut
me a check for referrals already haha) that people who are smart
enough will take the information that I and others on the forum
have posted and apply it to their lives to better their health
and performance at work or school. Due mainly to my profession,
I have to keep any possible information regarding physical
performance on the internet private. I hate it, but I don't make
the rules.
TheGreatWork is correct. This is truly a goldmine that we could
be potentially sitting on. Please take everything on this forum
with caution and be prepared for challenges ahead as palatal
expansion is truly a process.
Thanks
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: Progress Date: July 21, 2017, 4:39 pm
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Thanks for at least checking in to tell us what's up. It's a
shame you felt the need to delete the whole thread.
[quote author=TheGreatWork link=topic=309.msg2446#msg2446
date=1500660676]
(I'm compiling all this info gimme a second on the sources. I
might toss them all into a single post)
[/quote]
Please do, it would surely enlighten many.
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: TheGreatWork Date: July 21, 2017, 10:11 pm
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I just want to mention on this post that we should all probably
stop mentioning the website for expanders outside of personal
messages. We've only got one source for this stuff and there is
a message that self-use isn't condoned. The message which
probably got put up as a result of people asking the website
owner if they can do that. We don't want to end up pointing too
many people (non posters who get here from google) at the
website who then direct their questions to the website and cause
them to stop taking orders completely.
We kind of need to protect this source since it's the only one,
if it goes down then we're dead in the water in terms of this
avenue of research
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: dadfa Date: July 21, 2017, 11:26 pm
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Has anyone had any luck using a bottom expansander?
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Re: What happened to that self-expanding user and thread?
By: Cat Date: July 25, 2017, 8:38 am
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So now we know that mr asdfasdf123 was a scammer... is there
someone else who can prove (maybe with photos) that the "online
expander" works? I am on my way to build the Mew Vector(modified
RAMPA system by yashusi mitani patente) and that is the last
part i needed and now I am without proofs. If everything works I
will post about my version of mew vector.
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