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       #Post#: 2365--------------------------------------------------
       Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: Brosem1987
       Date: July 8, 2017, 6:40 pm
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       So I was wondering if anyone here can shed light on the
       different types of expanders listed or why certain ones may be
       better for certain malocclusions.
       There is the basic one and then there's a few others with a
       different amount of screws.
       I'm just wondering if extra screws are necessary and if if they
       could help more with cranial asymmetry?
       Also is it possible to expand while doing NCR?  Would you Leave
       the expander in while getting it done and then adjust it after?
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       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: dadfa
       Date: July 9, 2017, 11:07 pm
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       I've been wondering the same thing.  There are expanders with
       five screws. It appears that it may possibly cause foward
       expansion. But, I've been unable to get much information on what
       it exactly does.
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       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: Brosem1987
       Date: July 10, 2017, 4:56 pm
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       Yeah it's difficult because there's not many who do diy Ortho.
       We need to keep experimenting and sharing.
       BTW does anyone know if it's possible to face pull with the
       active plate?
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       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: dadfa
       Date: July 11, 2017, 12:21 am
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       Well the thing is that most dentists and orthodontists will not
       use expanders for cosmetic reasons. They will use them in
       extreme cases of narrow palates, if they choose to. I'm thinking
       the expanders with 5 screws may be superior to others, because
       it also creates forward expansion.
  HTML https://www.bracesshop.net/en/active-plates/23/modified-stretching-plate
       #Post#: 2376--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: Brosem1987
       Date: July 11, 2017, 5:39 am
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       So with forward expansion that would give you more of a square
       jaw?
       How would you know when to adjust the forward screws?
       #Post#: 2378--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: TheNo0n3
       Date: July 11, 2017, 12:09 pm
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       Not a pro, but I believe that lower expansion might make you
       look like the first slice of bread so be advised, it might not
       make things better, plus when the upper widens and the lower
       comes forward they should straighten or at least that is what
       they say.
       #Post#: 2380--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: July 11, 2017, 12:18 pm
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       --- Quote from: anarqwin link ---
       >
       > I also few that this palate expander with 5 screws may be
       superior. I'm about to buy the one of them and also a lower jaw
       expander. But before expanding my palate, I want to find a way
       to make sure I won't have a longer face (because teeth tend to
       extrude when expanding). Do you guys know a way to intrude
       teeth? The post called "before and after" showed a case of a
       girl treated with miniscrews that worked perfectly, but as I am
       doing a "homemade" approach using a miniscrew is not an option
       (I will not put a screw to anchor on my palate by myself, of
       course). Maybe chewing mastic gum? I've heard invisalign can
       intrude teeth, but it's a different method. Maybe something that
       I can bite hard or something I can anchor above my head like a
       helmet? I plan to intrude a bit my upper teeth to revert my
       slightly gummy smile and my lower teeth which will make my chin
       look smaller. I guess I've found a final plan for me, just need
       to find this last solution. :)
       >
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       If you want to retrude your teeth, just get traditional wire
       braces. I doubt that is what you really want, as doing so has
       only negative consequences. What's your situation? Do you have
       overbite or underbite? Deep bite? Crooked teeth or spaces
       between teeth?
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       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: July 11, 2017, 1:03 pm
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       Ah, yes, my bad.
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       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: dadfa
       Date: July 12, 2017, 2:07 am
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       The 5 screw expander is the only expander offering forward
       growth. This may possibly help fix a recessed face.
       Unfortunately, I have been unable to find anyone who has used
       it.
       #Post#: 2387--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bracesshop expanders?
   DIR By: TheNo0n3
       Date: July 12, 2017, 5:24 am
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       --- Quote from: anarqwin link ---
       >
       > Why do you say that? I don't understand why lower jaw
       expansion can't be good. But it's true that if I protrude my
       lower jaw (imagining my upper teeth are already expanded
       forward), my jawline looks good enough, so maybe I don't need
       it.
       >
       >
       > Update: I'm actually not sure by what you mean with "look like
       the first slice of bread". Are you saying it because I could get
       a square face and jaw like Dr. Mike Mew? If that is the case
       that is what I'm looking for. I would also expand slowly until I
       see a good enough result.
       >
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  HTML http://imgur.com/a/E5FJ4
       Here is an example of what I mean and I believe that the
       triangle jaw is much more aesthetic, that is why I was thinking
       of starting a topic some time ago if lower jaw expansion is
       really better and worth it. I am no specialist, nor do I have a
       lot of knowledge about stuff like this, so dont take my word too
       seriously. I just know what your goals are and wanted to throw
       this is in your favour, nothing more, nor less.
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