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Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion device?
DIR By: Brosem1987
Date: July 1, 2017, 9:00 am
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Hi everyone I'm new here and was wondering what are difference
between the two besides the method.
I mean are they targeting the same type of expansion or
different? How would you know which one is more beneficial?
Also how effective is using your thumbs to push on your upper
palate? Does that count as a version of Face pulling?
I am planning on getting cranial facial release (another similar
to NCR/endonasal) and was wondering if a palatal expansion
device
would complement it.
I am new here please be patient with me, and I appreciate all
your help. I'm really tired btw. I have chronic insomnia for
years.
Thanks
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Re: Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion
device?
DIR By: Progress
Date: July 1, 2017, 2:04 pm
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> How would you know which one is more beneficial?
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Well WE don't. You perhaps will. Everything depends on the
details (how you implement facepulling, expansion etc) and your
unique physical situation. It may be possible to expand the
palate simultaneously while facepulling. It may also be
impossible. Using a thumb to push on the palate generates the
kind of force that the tongue should be generating anyways,
which makes it somewhat redundant as a technique.
There are two ways to go on about improving your situation:
1) Get the anatomical function of the whole body as optimal as
you can before implementing external appliances. It is possible
that you won't even need anything else to get results. This is
basically a risk-free approach.
2) Jump straight into facepulling and palatal expansion. Not
risk free, but also a potentially faster approach.
I believe it's fully possible to achieve significantly better
skull structure over time using the body's own mechanics alone,
without any external appliances. Some will disagree. It's up to
you. Just be careful and have some common sense. Make sure that
you have the ability listen to your body. If you're analytical
and intuitive you will easily figure everything out by yourself
along the way.
#Post#: 2303--------------------------------------------------
Re: Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion
device?
DIR By: MeltedFace
Date: July 2, 2017, 7:52 am
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Everything said here so far is great, I agree that palette for
narrow palette is commonly a good point to start. There are
results of adults with device only palette expansion and many
more people doing that than specific Orthotropics... I agree in
first figuring out exactly what is going on in your situation
and structure first :)
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Re: Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion
device?
DIR By: Progress
Date: July 2, 2017, 10:36 am
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> However, the root cause of the problem is never addressed--
the narrow palate.
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Narrow palate is a symptom itself. It doesn't appear
spontaneously. The actual root cause can vary from person to
person, but for most it points towards something having gone
wrong during the first months/years of development. Be it
unfavourable conditions in the womb, allergic environment,
deficient nutrition/energy, physical diseases or lack of
physical activity... whatever disrupts the natural anatomical
function is going to lead to deficient structure.
But this is just nitpicking. Having a wide palate is indeed
important.
#Post#: 2315--------------------------------------------------
Re: Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion
device?
DIR By: Brosem1987
Date: July 2, 2017, 4:39 pm
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Thanks every one for clearing that up. I have decided I am
going to buy the expander from the website that has been posted
here.
Is there any basically tips or suggestions for using that upper
jaw device? Do you wear it 24/7 or only at night?
Keep in mind the very thing someone is trying to do is improve
their brain function and the simpler things are, the better
because if your coming from a place of decreased brain function
too much information feel impossible of making sense of.
I just did a rough measure using a tape on the outside of my
mouth but aiming it at my molars, and it came out to be about
1.5 inches or 38.1 mm.
#Post#: 2316--------------------------------------------------
Re: Difference between Face pulling and palatal expansion
device?
DIR By: Brosem1987
Date: July 2, 2017, 4:54 pm
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I'm sorry I asked a question that already has a lot of posts
about.
I am in the situation where I highly believe i have been living
life with an undiagnosed developmental delay/learning
disability.
I can see the assymetry in my face and the kind of weird shape.
In addition I have had postural and coordination problems my
entire life.
Now for about 8 years I have had a tweaked back and I can't find
a comfortable sleeping position which has thrown everything out
of whack. Not being able to sleep has screwed with my head
much.
I have tried alot of therapies and I have to say that none
actually made any improvement and none of them actually gave me
an intuitive sense that it was for me.
Endonasal balloons and expanding the palate with a device
actually make sense.
I really hope that I am overthinking this as a result of my
brain chemistry/structure and that maybe expanding my palate
increases some blood and oxygen flow and starts to change my
perception of my reality and the way I feel.
I honestly believe that it is possible. And I don't believe in
diagnoses.
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