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Swallowing Technique
DIR By: reenochrobinson
Date: May 16, 2017, 10:20 pm
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All of the tutorials I have watched or read talk about taking a
small sip, closing the lips, pressing the tip of the tongue to
the alveolar ridge, and then pressing the rest of the tongue up
against the palate in a wave-like motion, without activating any
facial muscles. I think I've gotten pretty good at this, but I
find myself wanting to take several consecutive sips rather than
pausing between each sip to swallow. It is harder to watch in
the mirror to make sure I'm not using any facial muscles, but I
think I can keep the cup at my lips and continue to poor the
beverage into my mouth as I successively undulate my tongue
against my palate. Occasionally, I aspirate with this method,
but I'm getting more accustomed to the rhythm.
What do you think? Is it possible to maintain proper swallowing
technique without pausing between sips? I haven't observed any
buccinator atrophy after several months of improved swallowing
habits.
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Re: Swallowing Technique
DIR By: Progress
Date: May 26, 2017, 3:28 pm
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Could you clarify a bit on what you see as the difference
between consecutive swallows and pausing between? Isn't there a
natural slight pause between even every consecutive sip simply
due to the necessary wave-like mechanism of the tongue? A pause
by itself shouldn't be a cause for concern as long as your
tongue can function correctly before, during and after the
swallow without having to adjust it in between.
For me, during swallowing the tongue seems to push against the
hard palate, but what actually is happening is the front tongue
using the maxilla as leverage to help the neck muscles under
your mandible and around adam's apple activate and push towards
your inner throat. This gives a strong base for the swallow and
after the motion I leave the neck muscles activated which keeps
the tongue against the palate and the neck straight until I
forget about it at some point. The muscle action feels like
sucking your adam's apple, or trying to swallow the posterior
tongue as one here said.
Also, if you have forwardly rotated tight computer shoulders,
it's not going to be as easy to swallow correctly, because the
strong base I mentioned is kept firm by the chest & shoulder
area, which in turn is kept firm by the groin area, which
determines how you use your legs to walk and stand etc. Which is
why it's important to look at the whole body posture if you feel
like something about your body motorics and mechanisms is not
working as you feel it should be. Everything supports each other
in your posture, if a single part fails the whole structure has
to compensate.
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Re: Swallowing Technique
DIR By: reenochrobinson
Date: May 26, 2017, 4:11 pm
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Do you have to poor a small volume of beverage into your mouth,
then close your lips and teeth, then initiate the swallow by
raising the front of your tongue and then the back of the tongue
to the palate, or can you keep the cup to your lips and continue
to poor the beverage into your mouth while you repeatedly raise
the front and then back of the tongue for several swallows in a
row?
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Re: Swallowing Technique
DIR By: Progress
Date: May 26, 2017, 6:07 pm
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As long as you swallow with the tongue & teeth instead of the
lips, and as long as the tongue stays up there before and after
the swallow, you can do it as comfortably as you want. It's of
little significance whether your lips are closed or open during
swallowing, what matters is that they aren't activating.
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Re: Swallowing Technique
DIR By: Progress
Date: June 6, 2017, 6:09 pm
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--- Quote from: Selina93 link ---
>
> Somebody say that if you do the cheesy smile and can't see
your tongue while swallowing then it should be fine.. and you
don't have to use the other muscles of the face to help you
swallowing. Problem is.. if you have no space between your teeth
you won't see your tongue even if its sides are behind the teeth
and not where the tongue should be (across the palate). So there
must be another technique... there is a big part I don't even
understand about the resting position.. tell me if I'm wrong.. I
basically suck my tongue in the palate so that it stays there,
when I did differently and I think I was pushing up in the
palate and if I opened the mouth I could see a huge undertongue
getting huge and I felt doing it wrong. So how I do it now is
basically a feeling of sucking and stucking the tongue in the
palate and there is not undertongue puffiness, the only visible
thing is that little line under the tongue. (This feeling of
stucking has been explained to me by a NCR therapist if I
remember well.. saying that in reality you are creating an air
vacuum of air and the feeling is because of that)
>
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I know I always go on about body posture these days, but bear
with me. As days go by it starts to seem to me that the
structural misplacements of the skull that manifest as the long
recessed face, while having the potential to serve as the root
cause for most of your physical problems, could also be a single
symptom of a more fundamental problem I've started calling
Postural Deficiency, which basically refers to the complete
collection of postural imbalances between the head and the toes,
caused by body-wide asymmetrically compensative effort to work
around the improper handling of your body.
I'm positive that I would've fit the criteria of this
self-imposed diagnosis already when I came into this world due
to physically traumatic birth where my head was suctioned out of
the womb. This hints that perhaps due to my skull already being
slightly "malformed", and therefore unbalanced, I never really
learned to crawl and eventually walk in a natural manner. I
could manage just OK (so OK that it took two decades to even
realize that there was a structural problem, let alone that all
my most pressing cosmetic concerns could be traced back to this
same problem), but the way I carried myself was far from being
even close to that anatomically balanced and effortless way of
using body every structurally healthy and good looking person
seemed to have learned innately.
I suspect many of you here may have similar stories. Some kind
of trauma or situation relatively early in your life led you to
start carrying your body in a way that rendered your postural
function (and therefore correct facial development) ineffective.
Mike is definitely correct when he argues that it makes no sense
to assume that malocclusion just happens or is genetic. For that
problem he has found a valid cause: improper tongue posture. But
this philosophy goes further: because what is just as correct,
is that you are not just spontaneously born with a lazy tongue
(same goes for mouthbreathing and I suspect for tongue tie too).
There has to be some even more fundamental problem that causes
it.
So what is it and how is any of this related to your question?
Well, at times when I stand in - what at least feels to me like
- almost the ideal posture (usually later in the day when the
body is warmed up and agile), the "mewing" and swallowing become
more than just pushing your tongue against the palate. It feels
like the whole surrounding musculuature in the neck, chest and
trapezoids becomes part of the same effort.
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Now that I think of it, no, that's not taking it far enough.
When I forcefully straighten out my spine and then relax a bit
while maintaining that position, its almost as if the whole
spine is interacting with the tongue through the hard palate.
The spine kind of hangs from the tongue by the palate. Which
leads me to the following claim: the primary postural function
of the tongue is to support the spine. Pushing the palate is a
secondary function. So to directly answer your question: you
should mew and swallow by pushing the tongue against your spine.
There can be some sucking against the palatal tissue, but I
personally don't view it as strictly necessary. The tongue
should easily stay in the correct palatal posture regardless,
because the palate is the tongue's natural leverage in providing
active support against the spine and its movements.
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