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#Post#: 1968--------------------------------------------------
Mandibular protraction (Don't chin tuck)
DIR By: QuantumLookMaxer
Date: April 23, 2017, 6:04 pm
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Check out this excellent article on TMJD. I recommend skipping
past most of the article and going straight for the section
titled "CORRECTIVES".
HTML https://treningogrehab.no/true-cause-solution-temporomandibular-dysfunction-tmd/
(TLDR: Protract (bring forward) the mandible, and acctivate the
pterygoid muscles (jaw muscle along the ramus area).
I started implementing the techniques on this website about two
months ago. However, I was doing it incorrectly because I was
activating the suprahyoid muscles, rather than the pterygoid
muscles, which still gave me benefits because I was practicing
mandubular protraction, but it was suboptimal. About 2-3 weeks
ago I started doing what I now believe is the technique
recommended in this article, and have seen undeniable
improvements in my face, and more importantly in my breathing
and neck posture.
Piort to this, I was practicing Mew's "Chin Tuck", but I now
believe Mike Mew was completely backasswards in his recommending
of this. As the article explains, mandibular retraction is BAD,
and I believe that when we are chin tucking we are practicing
mandibular retraction, which is causing our face to be worse. If
we were to constantly chin tuck, we'd end up with a shitty lower
jaw that would be constantly lodged up in our airway!! Not good
for aesthetics, and not good for breathing either.
When I was chin tucking it always felt really unnatural and
forced for me, but with mandibular protraction, my neck, spine,
and everything else seems to naturally be coming into
allignment.
I hope this makes sense to you guys, and if you feel it does,
read and study the article and give it a try for a few months.
Hopefully it helps you out. As far as my progress, I feel that I
still have a long way to go, but I think this technique has
helped bring me along further and has helped clear up some
inconsistencies and gaps I found with Mew's theories.
#Post#: 1970--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mandibular protraction (Don't chin tuck)
DIR By: Skull
Date: April 23, 2017, 7:55 pm
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When you do a Mckenzie Chin tuck you're not actually retracting
your mandible (IN RELATION TO THE UPPER JAW / and joint socket).
Yes, in relation to your neck, it APPEARS to be retracted but
it's not actually jamming the mandible further into the joint
because the whole skull is being rotated as a unit. It would
leave you with less tongue space and cause it to push against
the maxilla but we consider that a desirable force. Also it
doesn't appear that the author of that article disagrees with
Mew as he endorses him many times. I can retract or protract my
mandible in both tucked head posture and forward head posture.
#Post#: 1972--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mandibular protraction (Don't chin tuck)
DIR By: Progress
Date: April 24, 2017, 6:46 am
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--- Quote from: Skull link ---
>
> When you do a Mckenzie Chin tuck you're not actually
retracting your mandible (IN RELATION TO THE UPPER JAW / and
joint socket). Yes, in relation to your neck, it APPEARS to be
retracted but it's not actually jamming the mandible further
into the joint because the whole skull is being rotated as a
unit. It would leave you with less tongue space and cause it to
push against the maxilla but we consider that a desirable force.
Also it doesn't appear that the author of that article disagrees
with Mew as he endorses him many times. I can retract or
protract my mandible in both tucked head posture and forward
head posture.
>
--- End Quote ---
I agree. Despite being called chin tuck, you don't actually do
anything with your mandible. If anything, exaggerated chin tuck
causes the neck to push the mandible towards the maxilla,
instead of retracting it in relation to the skull. However, chin
protraction as an exercise can offer temporary help to TMD
symptoms.
The reason mandibular protraction seems to help your postural
balance so much is because that indeed brings the mandible
closer to the position in which its meant to be. Likewise, chin
tucking while keeping the jaws aligned feels uncomfortable
because, well, it is an uncomfortable position when you have a
recessed structure.
This does not disprove the importance of chin tucking / correct
head posture, but simply tells that your structure is recessed.
Which you probably already knew. Whether you keep your mandible
protracted or aligned with your upper jaw, the problem does not
change: you have to get the maxilla forward.
#Post#: 1975--------------------------------------------------
Re: Mandibular protraction (Don't chin tuck)
DIR By: MeltedFace
Date: April 25, 2017, 4:56 pm
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I notice my airway breathing is easier, and tongue when the jaw
comes forward a little and I keep the chin tuck... I'm going to
try this, since Mew isn't into teeth touching during resting
posture. This might be a good fit for helping little adjustments
- and my headaches!
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