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       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: PaperBag Date: May 2, 2017, 1:46 am
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       [quote author=slamo28 link=topic=260.msg2008#msg2008
       date=1493662642]
       Yea this is all you need for the crane. Also, strangely im not
       surprised there are no before and after pics. The crane needs to
       be worn at night and i know for a fact peoples sleep habits are
       poor already. The lady i talked to said one has to teach his or
       herself to sleep on their back for this treatment to work. for
       the average person who curls up into a ball at night, sleeping
       on their back will most likely be so uncomfortable that they say
       **** it and give up. Throw a crane in the mix and forget it. BUT
       my hypothesis is once someone fixes their head posture and can
       sleep on their back without ANY PILLOWS (which i have done), the
       crane should would perfectly. Anyone who has the crane, is this
       wishful thinking or does this sound practical?
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       Was there anything that helped you adjust to sleeping
       exclusively on your back, or was it just a situation of forcing
       yourself to do it until it was natural? I practically sleep on
       my face, and can see how it'd be a huge challenge to lay flat
       up.
       #Post#: 2018--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: slamo28 Date: May 2, 2017, 2:11 am
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       [quote author=PaperBag link=topic=260.msg2017#msg2017
       date=1493707578]
       Was there anything that helped you adjust to sleeping
       exclusively on your back, or was it just a situation of forcing
       yourself to do it until it was natural? I practically sleep on
       my face, and can see how it'd be a huge challenge to lay flat
       up.
       [/quote]
       So this is something i've been think a lot about. My first
       attempts at sleeping on my back failed and that was because my
       muscles were so used to curling up into a ball. So for those who
       feel major discomfort i suggest stretching hip flexors before
       bed. I went to the absolute extreme and released every single
       trigger point in my body. This was in hopes to fully lengthen
       any atrophied muscles to assuage back sleeping process. Man
       lemme tell you, i found trigger points ALL OVER especially in
       the quadriceps. There was a trigger point i found that swelled
       to the size of a golf ball. I even stopped goin to the gym
       because i didnt want to add any excess tension. Anyway the goal
       is to really loosen up hip flexors and get rid of any anteriror
       pelvic tilt. Or any pelvic tilt for that matter. I would also
       focus on pecotralis minor and major as that can greatly affect
       posture. Like seriously do not over look those. I would refer to
       this website to tackle the big six areas of your body. This
       website changed my life seriously.
  HTML http://www.ptacademy.edu.au/ultimate-six-unlock-your-body/
  HTML http://www.ptacademy.edu.au/ultimate-six-unlock-your-body/
       [quote author=Progress link=topic=260.msg2010#msg2010
       date=1493669661]
       I find sleep apnea and heavy snoring unavoidable when sleeping
       on back, even after using pillows to elevate the head and neck.
       [/quote]
       for those who literally cant sleep on their backs because of
       airways issues, continue mewing, doing oral posture exercises
       three times a day. We want that palate to widen and that lower
       jaw to come forward so that your tongue wont obstruct your
       airway. In the mean time you will have to elevate your upper
       body using a wedge pillow as that will alleviate those airway
       issues.
  HTML https://www.the-pillow.com/uploads/thumb/jpg/38/640x322/uploads/images/products/38/reading-wedge.png
       [quote author=Progress link=topic=260.msg2010#msg2010
       date=1493669661]
       It seems that even Native Americans - whose skulls neared
       perfection - didn't sleep without a pillow. Yet considering the
       evolution of the modern human it should be reasonable to assume
       that man spent majority of this lengthy period sleeping without
       a pillow, especially before becoming self-aware enough to start
       utilizing complex tools. All animals in the nature have their
       own proper growth ensuring natural sleeping positions that can
       be achieved without any extra props. It wouldn't make sense to
       believe that the modern human would've evolved to need a pillow
       for sleep either. Instead, it was probably something that was
       picked up over time to compensate for improper structure and
       form.
       [/quote]
       Yes exactly!
       #Post#: 2046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: Dr Jesse Jutkowitz Date: May 5, 2017, 1:02 pm
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       This is a repeat from another thread but appropriate here.
       You should check the thread on handling bodies.
       Jaw problems are often not just the head or even in the head at
       all.  It is much more than that.
       check MeningealRelease.com
       You can learn ABC™ yourself with a friend and save your body as
       well as time and money rather than paying someone who cannot do
       as much.
       As I state in the video, the front view is useless, it is the
       side view that is most important and if you go to
       MeningealRelease.com   ,   sign up and learn the ABC First Rib
       Maneuver™ your body will work better than you imagine and you
       will know the rest can be accomplished consistently -- rather
       than empty promises that only work for some.
       #Post#: 2054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: Tyler Date: May 7, 2017, 2:40 am
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       That's great, thanks for sharing.
       I still have my braces atm ... I will get around to getting them
       off, and getting one of those funny expander things in.
       #Post#: 2058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: slamo28 Date: May 7, 2017, 1:43 pm
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       [quote author=Selina93 link=topic=260.msg2053#msg2053
       date=1494141723]
       Actually there are before and after. .. and I'm really shocked
  HTML http://www.thecranencrp.com/
       There is the girl with severe lack of midface.. and the pic on
       the right is crazingly different
       [/quote]
       I am so skeptical of this before and after photo. Looks like a
       double jaw surgery to me.
       #Post#: 2703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ineresting Pictures
       By: PaperBag Date: March 27, 2018, 3:23 am
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       Bumping this thread because I've been obsessing about
       facepulling for days, specifically the Crane.
       That before and after of the girl in front of the blue
       background is a patient of someone else, and she had surgeries
       that are unrelated to the concept of facepulling.
  HTML http://drrichardjoseph.com/photos/112.php
       What's the point of displaying someone who doesn't reflect the
       product being advertised?
       Is the blonde girl up top the same person as the blonde woman on
       the bottom? I thought the photos were unrelated, but the whole
       website looks like something from 1998 so it's hard to tell and
       it makes what sounds like a good invention look very amateur
       when presented in such a clunky manner with little information
       to see.
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