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#Post#: 2149--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Jaw Breaker
Date: May 31, 2017, 1:37 am
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It's not my first attempt no but, I've yet to get the technique
right and just feel I might be doing more harm than good. My
face is pretty symmetrical anyway, its just my maxilla is
further back than I'd like. I do feel that although I haven't
successfully done one round if NCR the face pulling is working
anyway. because within a week of me starting it my side and
front cheek bones started to pop out and everyone noticed. I've
been trying to find ways to 'activated' the sphenoid bone
without hitting it with a finger cot. I've been looking into
something called Emotional Freedom Technique or EFT. apparently
women were able to grow there breasts bigger using this
technique. others were able to recover from diseases like MS. I
figure if this technique can cause physical change in someones
body, maybe it could move the sphenoid bone? On Plato's site he
did explain that the maxilla gets 'locked up' when we go through
trauma and this technique expels trauma and other emotions we've
not dealt with thus releasing tension in our bodies so it should
help the Maxilla as well.
I just think that our minds are so powerful that it might be
worth using that power to accomplish our desires.
regarding myofuntional training. I did see on CP site examples
of people who were able to move their maxilla up and forwards
with this technique alone, so thats another thing I'm giving a
go.
#Post#: 2152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Progress
Date: May 31, 2017, 7:18 am
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--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> It's not my first attempt no but, I've yet to get the
technique right and just feel I might be doing more harm than
good. My face is pretty symmetrical anyway, its just my maxilla
is further back than I'd like. I do feel that although I haven't
successfully done one round if NCR the face pulling is working
anyway. because within a week of me starting it my side and
front cheek bones started to pop out and everyone noticed. I've
been trying to find ways to 'activated' the sphenoid bone
without hitting it with a finger cot. I've been looking into
something called Emotional Freedom Technique or EFT. apparently
women were able to grow there breasts bigger using this
technique. others were able to recover from diseases like MS. I
figure if this technique can cause physical change in someones
body, maybe it could move the sphenoid bone? On Plato's site he
did explain that the maxilla gets 'locked up' when we go through
trauma and this technique expels trauma and other emotions we've
not dealt with thus releasing tension in our bodies so it should
help the Maxilla as well.
> I just think that our minds are so powerful that it might be
worth using that power to accomplish our desires.
> regarding myofuntional training. I did see on CP site examples
of people who were able to move their maxilla up and forwards
with this technique alone, so thats another thing I'm giving a
go.
>
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Yes the link between emotions and posture, along with their long
term influence on the whole body is an interesting fringe topic.
Are you familiar with Reich's ideas such as the ones described
on Plato's facepulling site? It does not sound that far-fetched
that people who experience reoccurring neglect, abuse or trauma
in the childhood learn to cope both emotionally and physically.
Certain emotions become lesser or greater depending on how you
hold your body (try how unassertive you feel in curled relaxed
position vs dominant tensed up position or how you feel while
making angry vs sad face). If a child experiences a certain
negative emotion chronically without having any control on the
reason it happens (daddy beats mommy on the reg), the child will
often eventually find a way to at least make those feelings
less, through physical and mental means.
Fundamentally, even from a strictly scientific point of view,
the body is a complex stream of energy flowing in and out and
around, and anything that disturbs this flow is going to have
significant consequences. The problem is that the stream of
energy is so easy to disturb. Just a small negative thought or
something your senses pick up can throw the body in a
self-reinforcing negative feedback loop between worsening
posture, mental state and poor energy flow if left unchecked by
the conscious mind, and when this loop becomes chronic instead
of situational, the musculature starts to adapt to the changes
to the extent that the altered posture and mental health becomes
basically a part of you. Eventually your whole way of
interacting with the surrounding reality has changed.
I think Tyler described some quite intense changes in the way he
related with the nature, himself and others years ago when his
skull was undergoing changes.
#Post#: 2154--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: reenochrobinson
Date: May 31, 2017, 3:15 pm
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--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
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> It's not my first attempt no but, I've yet to get the
technique right and just feel I might be doing more harm than
good.
>
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Better safe than sorry! I definitely wouldn't keep doing it
unless I was confident in my technique.
--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> I've been trying to find ways to 'activated' the sphenoid bone
without hitting it with a finger cot.
>
--- End Quote ---
I'm not really sure I'm successfully engaging the sphenoid bone
with my ncr, even though I know I'm inflating within the
nasopharynx.
--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> I do feel that although I haven't successfully done one round
if NCR the face pulling is working anyway. because within a week
of me starting it my side and front cheek bones started to pop
out and everyone noticed.
>
--- End Quote ---
Congratulations! Are you using the mouthguard + shoelace setup?
What's your routine?
--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> I just think that our minds are so powerful that it might be
worth using that power to accomplish our desires.
>
--- End Quote ---
--- Quote from: Progress link ---
>
> Yes the link between emotions and posture, along with their
long term influence on the whole body is an interesting fringe
topic.
--- End Quote ---
I definitely believe meditating and visualizing the changes
we're trying to achieve are worthwhile pursuits. As I commented
in the thread about Binural Beats, while I don't think just
listening to certain sound frequencies is going to remodel our
bones, concentrating in a meditative state can help us integrate
postural habits and reinforce our commitment and belief that
change is possible.
#Post#: 2155--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Jaw Breaker
Date: May 31, 2017, 3:27 pm
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I got Damon braces so I'm just using them with a hockey helmet
to do the face pulling.
#Post#: 2156--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Jaw Breaker
Date: May 31, 2017, 3:40 pm
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Yes I did read a bit about it :) it's very interesting :) I
definitely agree that childhood trauma can make us tense even
when we've fully grown. My dad was emotionally abusive and we
were walking on egg shells pretty much all the time he was home.
as a result I developed the habit of clenching my teeth during
the night, as a result my jaw line is more pronounced than my
siblings.
Have you tried anything like Reich ideas for facial improvement?
I would really like some advice on self NCR, I would really like
to have another go at it. do you have any tips?
#Post#: 2157--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: reenochrobinson
Date: May 31, 2017, 7:32 pm
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--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> I would really like some advice on self NCR, I would really
like to have another go at it. do you have any tips?
>
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Do you think the finger cot was inflating within the nasopharynx
or were you not able to advance past the turbinates and just
inflating within a meatus? It definitely took me several
attempts to reach the nasopharynx when I was first learning.
Even when I started treating again, I couldn't quite get it
right on the first couple tries. For me, it is easiest to place
the finger cot in the bottom meatus. Once you know where your
target is and how it's supposed to feel it gets much easier. I'm
happy to try and answer questions.
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Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Progress
Date: June 1, 2017, 7:01 am
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--- Quote from: reenochrobinson link ---
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>
> [quote author=Progress link=topic=258.msg2152#msg2152
date=1496233088]
> Yes the link between emotions and posture, along with their
long term influence on the whole body is an interesting fringe
topic.
--- End Quote ---
I definitely believe meditating and visualizing the changes
we're trying to achieve are worthwhile pursuits. As I commented
in the thread about Binural Beats, while I don't think just
listening to certain sound frequencies is going to remodel our
bones, concentrating in a meditative state can help us integrate
postural habits and reinforce our commitment and belief that
change is possible.
[/quote]
Yeah for sure. Learning to be more aware of the body and how it
feels to use it is a learnable skill like anything else - and
greatly beneficial in many aspects of life.
--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> Have you tried anything like Reich ideas for facial
improvement?
> I would really like some advice on self NCR, I would really
like to have another go at it. do you have any tips?
>
--- End Quote ---
Not directly, but I understand where he's coming from and find
it easy to agree with his theories intuitively. what are you
having problems with? I haven't been able to hit the sphenoid
lately, the balloon just expands against the walls of the upper
throat but doesn't seem to be able to snap the sphenoid. Perhaps
it just isn't the time for it.
#Post#: 2161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Jaw Breaker
Date: June 1, 2017, 7:10 am
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thank you for offering to help me :) To be honest, I have no
idea if I got past the turbinates or not. my last attempt did
gag me slightly but, like I said it hurt me last time so I've
not done it since.
But I will try it again soon :) my right nostril is all locked
up and I can barely get the finger cot up there. I think my
maxilla is less developed on that side as my right eye is
slightly more sunken that my left.
#Post#: 2181--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: reenochrobinson
Date: June 3, 2017, 8:56 pm
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--- Quote from: Jaw Breaker link ---
>
> thank you for offering to help me :) To be honest, I have no
idea if I got past the turbinates or not. my last attempt did
gag me slightly but, like I said it hurt me last time so I've
not done it since.
> But I will try it again soon :) my right nostril is all locked
up and I can barely get the finger cot up there. I think my
maxilla is less developed on that side as my right eye is
slightly more sunken that my left.
>
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My guess is that you were only inflating within the meatus or
back into the vestibule, and the finger cot never advanced past
the turbinates into the nasopharynx. Generally, after careful
placement of the finger cot, I give the sphygmomanometer bulb a
few small squeezes while pressing inward and then feel the
finger cot expand into the space of the nasopharynx where there
is much less resistance as I squeeze fully a few times before
releasing the valve and pulling the finger cot out.
#Post#: 2218--------------------------------------------------
Re: Second round of Self NCR
DIR By: Jaw Breaker
Date: June 13, 2017, 1:09 pm
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You're probably right! what size finger cot do you use? I have a
small structure but usea medium size finger cot.
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