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#Post#: 1912--------------------------------------------------
Palate expander
DIR By: Cat
Date: April 15, 2017, 3:13 pm
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Hello everyone I am from Italy and I am interested in buying an
online palate expander, I have the dental cast to send to the
lab. The dentist said me that it will cost 1000 euro here
locally(only the expander) ::)
The objective is to do a semi-rapid palate expansion as doc mew
said 1 mm by week + hard chewing. I need something like 6 to 8
mm of expansion.
It would be great an expander with attachments for forward and
upward pulling. Can't afford to go to the uk and visit mew he
would cost too much :-\
Other's experience is welcome, sorry for bad English:)
#Post#: 1915--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 16, 2017, 9:28 am
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In the last few days I am a bit confused about how a palate
expander looks like. Is it a removable one? Does it look like
this
HTML http://www.jjcortho.com/assets/images/palatal-expander-02.jpg
or like this
HTML http://www.smilesandfaces.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Palatal-Expander-1.jpg
#Post#: 1917--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: Cat
Date: April 16, 2017, 4:54 pm
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Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist removeable
the second bonded or something else. Someone actually used the
first one with the pulling mask. I know that the bonded one is
more effective but not an expert on that ::) .
HTML https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493
this study proves
the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did
not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I
want really hear about someone that did it at home.
Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here:
HTML http://www.bracesshop.de
.
The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be scammed.
I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write soon.
#Post#: 1918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 16, 2017, 6:25 pm
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--- Quote from: Cat link ---
>
> Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist
removeable the second bonded or something else. Someone actually
used the first one with the pulling mask. I know that the
bonded one is more effective but not an expert on that ::) .
>
HTML https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493
this study proves
the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did
not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I
want really hear about someone that did it at home.
> Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here:
HTML http://www.bracesshop.de
.
> The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be
scammed.
> I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write
soon.
>
--- End Quote ---
Your orthodontists should offer that type, the removeable one,
at least that is what they show in that website. They are pretty
common practice, in my country at least almost everyone has worn
them, but at pretty young age, like 10 or younger, I got mines
late tho, like 14 and 3-4 years later got annoyed by them and
the slow results and left them, although now that I have
educated myself on things, I plan to go to orthodontist so they
can fix them, so I can wear them again.
About the hard gum chewing, I might be wrong and probably am,
but I have no recollection of Mew saying that hard gum should be
chewed, now he did say that u know, all those maxilla related
problems are cause by soft food, weak facial muscles and he had
a video where he chewed a ball of gums, but I more of think
that buying and chewing hard gum was something thought of in a
forum. Well I dislocated my jaw on the second day from 40
minutes of not that hard gum chewing(falim gum-which really
wasnt that hard), I have no idea how and what happened, but I am
suffering the consequenses atm, can barely open my mouth, like
1-2 cm, it just wont open more and doesnt seem to get any
better, although the doctor said, that all should be okay and I
eat only soft food. What I mean is, dont overdo it, its no
secret that big forces wear out a joint.
Yeah, the bonded is more effective, no lie, my question was
which one they offer you, because for me 1000 euro seems like a
theft, not that I know the prices, but I am pretty sure it aint
made from silver
#Post#: 1921--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: Cat
Date: April 17, 2017, 6:52 am
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--- Quote from: TheNo0n3 link ---
>
> [quote author=Cat link=topic=253.msg1917#msg1917
date=1492379673]
> Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist
removeable the second bonded or something else. Someone actually
used the first one with the pulling mask. I know that the
bonded one is more effective but not an expert on that ::) .
>
HTML https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493
this study proves
the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did
not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I
want really hear about someone that did it at home.
> Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here:
HTML http://www.bracesshop.de
.
> The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be
scammed.
> I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write
soon.
>
--- End Quote ---
Your orthodontists should offer that type, the removeable one,
at least that is what they show in that website. They are pretty
common practice, in my country at least almost everyone has worn
them, but at pretty young age, like 10 or younger, I got mines
late tho, like 14 and 3-4 years later got annoyed by them and
the slow results and left them, although now that I have
educated myself on things, I plan to go to orthodontist so they
can fix them, so I can wear them again.
About the hard gum chewing, I might be wrong and probably am,
but I have no recollection of Mew saying that hard gum should be
chewed, now he did say that u know, all those maxilla related
problems are cause by soft food, weak facial muscles and he had
a video where he chewed a ball of gums, but I more of think
that buying and chewing hard gum was something thought of in a
forum. Well I dislocated my jaw on the second day from 40
minutes of not that hard gum chewing(falim gum-which really
wasnt that hard), I have no idea how and what happened, but I am
suffering the consequenses atm, can barely open my mouth, like
1-2 cm, it just wont open more and doesnt seem to get any
better, although the doctor said, that all should be okay and I
eat only soft food. What I mean is, dont overdo it, its no
secret that big forces wear out a joint.
Yeah, the bonded is more effective, no lie, my question was
which one they offer you, because for me 1000 euro seems like a
theft, not that I know the prices, but I am pretty sure it aint
made from silver
[/quote]
The story goes like this: Frist ortho(the thief) suggested RPE
1000 euro + cost of the treatment plan 1200 per month. The
second one suggested that it can only be solved by surgery. I
have a very slight underbite, nothing rally impressive. Frist i
was thing about having th surgery beacuz my face was rally
messed up.
But i think it can be solved without surgery like with the mew
vector headgear, but for that i have to fly to uk(not a big
cost) stay there(big cost) and pay mew(big cost i think).
Why am I so sure of this? Because since 7+ months i have done
the "mewing"(keeping a good posture of the body and the tongue +
eating hard foods like carrots or others and avoiding soft foods
possibily) and my underbite has improved. I am 21/22 and
I'm really fascinated by this thing. My face really changed but
still need an expansion.
#Post#: 1922--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 17, 2017, 7:35 am
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I have a feeling a offended you by saying it is a theft and I
apologise, I really have no idea what exactly they want to do so
it would cost that much, but hey, they might have.
Sooooooooo, if things are getting better, why dont you just
continue doing it instead of going for procedures?
#Post#: 1923--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: Cat
Date: April 17, 2017, 9:59 am
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I want more tongue space and this way even if it is expanding it
is so damn slow... :D
#Post#: 1976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: Michael
Date: April 26, 2017, 2:37 am
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I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion in
a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean opening
the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately it seems
over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut the hard
palate. Do your research.
HTML https://reversedental.wordpress.com/
#Post#: 1977--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: MeltedFace
Date: April 26, 2017, 10:33 am
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--- Quote from: Michael link ---
>
> I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion
in a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean
opening the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately
it seems over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut
the hard palate. Do your research.
>
HTML https://reversedental.wordpress.com/
>
--- End Quote ---
If you watch Mike Mews videos on this topic, he says it is done
frequently by him with adults... it just needs someone who knows
the process and is outside of traditional methods.
#Post#: 2168--------------------------------------------------
Re: Palate expander
DIR By: Cat
Date: June 2, 2017, 4:28 am
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--- Quote from: Michael link ---
>
> I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion
in a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean
opening the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately
it seems over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut
the hard palate. Do your research.
>
HTML https://reversedental.wordpress.com/
>
--- End Quote ---
MARPE has been shown to work with 54 22 and 16 years old
patients, there is no need for SARPE.
This girl had MARPE she is 24 and it workd very well
HTML http://smileofsteel.weebly.com/.
I am wondring what happens if
one does MARPE with a semi rapid rate... How much the maxilla
will come forward?
Btw Won Moon is a genius haha
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