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#Post#: 1885--------------------------------------------------
Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 4, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Two days ago I started chewing falim gum. I was considering
making this post maybe after some time, but it is probably best
to address things as soon as they happen and it doesnt hurt to
ask, does it? So, as the title says, I have jaw pain which
appears after some time of chewing, not even that long, I have
been chewing since 40 minutes and the pain spread to both sides
of my jaw, so here I am. I have never before had jaw pain before
and had it yesterday for the first time. It also spreads to my
ear, when it happens it feels like I am popping a joint, but it
is slight and the memory might be lying me. I think that it
might be because I am chewing a bit unseriously, what I mean by
that is that I am not chewing just doing the up down movement
but moving my mandible around, like for example some douchy
chewing, like you feel too confident and relaxed, like an actor
would for example portray someone chewing a gum and wrapping
their hair around their finger :D . So, my question is, should I
continue with the chewing, should I just do short intervals and
with time longer. There is this also that I chew mainly on my
assymetrical side and have noticed that this causes pain because
there is force on just one side for too long time. That might
sound like, well duh, you found the answer yourself why are you
asking, but many people say they chew on one side for hours, so
yeah. Should I be worried about causing TMD? In the end, I dont
think stopping chewing this gum is the better option since it is
supposed to be the helper, the fix, which will work to avoid
this or to treat it.
#Post#: 1886--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: Progress
Date: April 4, 2017, 6:00 pm
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Pain obviously is not the goal. You can continue chewing, but
you have to stop immediately the moment it becomes
uncomfortable. TMJ problems are not worth the relatively small
structural changes you can get from chewing.
#Post#: 1887--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 4, 2017, 6:23 pm
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--- Quote from: Progress link ---
>
> Pain obviously is not the goal. You can continue chewing, but
you have to stop immediately the moment it becomes
uncomfortable. TMJ problems are not worth the relatively small
structural changes you can get from chewing.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks, Its been a hour and something and the pain has almost
disappeared but I can still feel it a little, well, joint
related pains do disappear slowly, so yeah. I will work on my
manners of chewing and try to avoid what I see causes pain,
funny thing tho, I usually chew gum a lot for hygene purposes
and falim gum didnt really impress me with its hardness and I
probably chew a little too hard like in a way in which to
compensate for the lack of hardness in the gum, like focusing
too much and diving my teeth in the gum with more than the
needed force, the equivalent of which you will use in a harder
gum.
#Post#: 1889--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: MeltedFace
Date: April 5, 2017, 1:10 am
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I'd back off for a couple days. Go WAY more gentle, and try for
fifteen minutes for let's say - 5 days. Then twenty for a few,
then thirty, etc. sometimes I just chew for 20 minutes and other
times over an hour. Listen to your body, and when you feel a
sore kind of burn, back off and be done for the day. Go every
other day, to rest your muscles.
#Post#: 1902--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: Ryan
Date: April 6, 2017, 5:18 pm
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Maybe the problem is that your maxilla is not rotated or located
the right way to begin with, which simply shows issues you
already may have had. It could be that after facepulling, NCR,
beltfacepulling, thumbfacepulling or whatever, your issue might
not come at all with the chewming. it could be some bones are
dislocated from their most desired location, which by chewing
shows the problem. It could be that right now something is not
located right and adding pressure on it, shows the problems you
might alreay have (structural problems in the literal way). This
is just a theory though, but things like TMJ are usually seen in
people with small jaws, and small jaws are usually recessed,
maxilla low..etc
This is just an idea though, so take it for what you think it's
worth.
#Post#: 1905--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: April 7, 2017, 10:47 am
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--- Quote from: Ryan link ---
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> Maybe the problem is that your maxilla is not rotated or
located the right way to begin with, which simply shows issues
you already may have had. It could be that after facepulling,
NCR, beltfacepulling, thumbfacepulling or whatever, your issue
might not come at all with the chewming.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry, couldnt understand you exactly, do you mean that if I do
those things stated, my issue might not come at all?
Anyway it turned out that I had really dislocated my jaw lol.
Today I went to the doctor, looks like that through all the
experementing I did alone yesterday I had put it back in place
and now its just traumatized and needs time to recover. Luckily,
he said that it should be nothing permanent, I would go and see
him after two weeks and see if everything is healing properly
and write again here in order to share my case, so other people
are careful with the chewing and dont have the same problem. He
also said that strengthening the muscles is sure a good thing
but it shouldnt be overdone by chewing too long.
He gave me an aqualizer. Has anyone had the same thing so to
share some experience or how long to wear it? (it is just some
cushions filled with fluid between you back teeth, so it keeps
your jaw open)
#Post#: 1907--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: Progress
Date: April 10, 2017, 1:41 pm
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--- Quote from: TheNo0n3 link ---
>
> [quote author=Ryan link=topic=249.msg1902#msg1902
date=1491517126]
> Maybe the problem is that your maxilla is not rotated or
located the right way to begin with, which simply shows issues
you already may have had. It could be that after facepulling,
NCR, beltfacepulling, thumbfacepulling or whatever, your issue
might not come at all with the chewming.
>
--- End Quote ---
Sorry, couldnt understand you exactly, do you mean that if I do
those things stated, my issue might not come at all?
Anyway it turned out that I had really dislocated my jaw lol.
Today I went to the doctor, looks like that through all the
experementing I did alone yesterday I had put it back in place
and now its just traumatized and needs time to recover. Luckily,
he said that it should be nothing permanent, I would go and see
him after two weeks and see if everything is healing properly
and write again here in order to share my case, so other people
are careful with the chewing and dont have the same problem. He
also said that strengthening the muscles is sure a good thing
but it shouldnt be overdone by chewing too long.
He gave me an aqualizer. Has anyone had the same thing so to
share some experience or how long to wear it? (it is just some
cushions filled with fluid between you back teeth, so it keeps
your jaw open)
[/quote]
Damn, that's not good.
I think what Ryan is trying to say is that when the jaws are in
optimal position the joints will be able to handle stress
better, because the range of motion of the mandible (= the bite)
will be in line with what the temporomandibular joint wants it
to be. And I have to agree. I'm not so keen on the idea of
chewing a lot or hard with a recessed maxilla, precisely because
of cases like yours. It's not wise to bench press or deadlift
heavy with a bad form and the same is true for chewing too.
It would be ideal to achieve maxillary movement or expansion
first and introduce chewing only after the bite is forward
enough for mandible to follow its natural range of motion.
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Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: May 3, 2017, 4:27 pm
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--- Quote from: Selina93 link ---
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> How is it going,TheNo0n3? Pretty sure it is related to the
rotation of the maxilla, the Myo therapy clearly stated that
it's possible to dislocate the jaw even if not chewing hard if
you the maxilla is not placed in the good way, that's why Myo is
needed (even thought Myo concerns chewing as well). while some
ortho say it's OK to leave it untreated some others don't for
the fact that the jaw becomes more prone to this kind of
happenings... :(
>
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Hey, thanks for asking, its getting better with everyday but
still needs time, I can open my whole mouth, but keep my finger
behind my jaw for support, so it doesnt go back or move
improperly. Used to have glued ear but these days it has almost
disappeared. At least I avoided that 400 Euro appliance.
Probably it will heal in a month or two, I can chew more and
more, although I am still going for softer food.
Yeah, could be related, although I think I was moving my jaw too
much in random directions and sinking my teeth unnecessary.
However, that is one of the reasons why all those forum-made
pulling techniques worry me, as they cause huge assymetries and
rotated maxillas.
#Post#: 2045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Jaw pain from chewing falim gum
DIR By: Dr Jesse Jutkowitz
Date: May 5, 2017, 1:00 pm
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You should check the thread on handling bodies.
Jaw problems are often not just the head or even in the head at
all. It is much more than that.
check MeningealRelease.com
You can learn ABC™ yourself with a friend and save your body as
well as time and money rather than paying someone who cannot do
as much.
If you go to MeningealRelease.com , sign up and learn the
ABC First Rib Maneuver™ your body will work better than you
imagine and you will know the rest can be accomplished
consistently -- rather than empty promises that only work for
some.
For some the FRM opens the jaw but for many it is something else
that is sticking the head. See the last post in the handling
bodies thread.
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