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Re: Diagnose my face - pics included!
DIR By: Tyler
Date: May 3, 2017, 2:53 am
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Actually, tonight I really agree with you, about what you were
writing.
I just didn't want it to go so far that people reject their own
faces ...
But, actually the more that I develop, I begin to feel like my
actual inner nature is showing more in my outer appearance. I've
always felt like a bit of a fighter inside, but looked so weak
growing up that I assumed I was born to be a dweeb.
I didn't mean to take away from your progress by bringing that
other stuff up.. and, I don't like those "red pill" sites. Me, I
just feel excited to see what my end-development self looks
like. Then I plan to go from there.
I guess you guys feel more like the same as me, eh?
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Re: Diagnose my face - pics included!
DIR By: InferiorerThanYou
Date: May 3, 2017, 4:42 am
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I've had similar thoughts as PaperBag, especially since my
spiritual endeavors lasted around 5 grueling years of looking
for answers day in and day out and coming out with nothing. The
reason why myself or anybody goes into spirituality or any other
form of self improvement is out of a feeling of not being good
enough. The same thing of course applies to trying to improve
your looks, which is fine, because I am not satisfied with how I
look either; I have cranial dystrophy as well and the past year
or so of gorging on articles and videos about it have made me
hyper aware of it. However, at the same time, I know that what I
am chasing is an imaginary benchmark of being "good enough"
(whatever that means). I know that even if I got the perfect
face, that that wouldn't really solve the problem. I don't even
know why I don't feel good enough; I guess the large majority of
people who feel this way don't know either, but everyone goes on
trying to fill the hole or prove the idea wrong.
Maybe there are some people out there who have gotten somewhere
by wrestling with the problem, but I personally have never seen
any; I've seen people who act like they're getting better due to
getting really good at ignoring their thoughts/problems or
whether or not some new method seems to be going well for them,
but they eventually revert back to feeling like they did before
- the same has been true for me. Personally, I don't see any
point in trying to prove anything wrong or try and fix anything,
because it's been proven repeatedly that there's no winning.
When you look at the rare person who genuinely feels good about
themselves, you'll see that it's effortless and they're not
fighting with their ideas in order to feel a certain way. If you
really loved yourself, you wouldn't need to convince yourself of
it; in fact, the opposite of loving yourself wouldn't mean
anything to you. In quite a few celebrities with a troubled
past, you can see them post on Twitter/Instagram, etc. empty
quotes on how they're getting better or how much they like
themselves, etc. but you can tell it's incredibly hollow.
I often think that getting more external attention about looking
good would make me feel better, even though it wouldn't; I've
been told I look good quite a few times, but I still think I'm
hideous. I find it odd how there are a fair amount of people who
are unattractive and don't seem to care about it, it's just like
"Yeah, I'm ugly as hell!" - even though I don't understand the
people who don't want to improve their sub-par looks, I think it
serves as a good example on how they are not fighting a battle
about it and so they are at peace. To me, trying to change how
you feel about anything is just reinforcing the idea of "I am
someone who needs fixing" and so you'll never arrive.
Even if my face changes, I have no hope that I will feel
attractive or stop feeling depressed, etc. because the idea that
I can feel something I am not feeling right now/naturally is
just fantasizing. Since I feel all these negative things
naturally, these things are true to me and trying to get rid of
them is kind of silly, because trying to feel "different" is
just covering up the negativity that's already there. I don't
even mean to say all this as another game of "If I pretend to
not change, then I will be given what these teachers have
promised", it's just more so a matter of seeing the way things
are.
By the way, this has nothing to do with discouraging trying to
fix your appearance, since I will be continuing to do all that I
can, it's just stopping trying to change how you feel about
yourself, because unless it's a natural feeling, it's just you
at war with yourself.
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Re: Diagnose my face - pics included!
DIR By: Tyler
Date: May 3, 2017, 5:25 am
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Hi there, new person. Sorry about your name pick, but I won't
call you by that name, or myself for that matter.
Actually, I want to try and .. say something to you about that
(the depression) here, although it would be easier to offer you
some relevant text. You haven't requested that, though, so I
really can't point you in any direction, even if it is very
relevant and may answer quite many of your probing questions.
Actually, I have information about some relevant text that could
answer many of your probing questions as well, lady with the
paper bag over her head, but you haven't asked about that
either.
I can offer you this, though - my own experience, which perhaps
you will find to be different than what you've encountered to
date.
I fought depression myself for a long time, and ... some days, I
still do in fact. But actually, I eat more green vegetables
today, and drink milk for the energy, and explore the use of
herbs for curiosity and excitement over what potential
salubrious effect they might have on me. I don't live in any
kind of bliss or Nirvana, but my existence is ... well,
satisfactory to me.
I suppose I had tried to touch on the subject in some earlier
posts, that in the viewpoint that I have accumulated now, I
would say that there is a difference between wishing to be
somebody we aren't, and so wishing to have the beauty of
somebody else, and then simply developing into the best possible
version of ourselves ... Obviously, I cannot say what your
nature is, but, for me anyway, the actual striving in order to
develop into my own best appearance is satisfying, because as I
improve my beauty, my vitality, my nourishment, and also am
learning skills along the way to help me do that, then the whole
thing makes me .. actually a bit optimistic, and I just think
about who I might be when it's all been done to completion.
I look .. at my own face now and then, after I have made a bit
of progress, and try hard to imagine what I would look like, if
I had more vitality, more life in the eyes, warmer skin, and so
looked like the best, most beautiful version of myself ... And
then, I try to make those things come true, either by taking in
more nourishment, or by getting outside for a walk in nature, or
sometimes by even forming the basic volition to think a nice
sentiment about myself instead of the usual self-loathing and
lies, and yes I'm also trying to put the adjustment on my bone
structure with these gentle applied forces ... all because the
whole, greater thing ... even almost a spiritual thing ... calls
me to hold my thoughts in the cognition of what might be,
instead of bemoaning what is.
.... although, I have to *recognise* reality before I can begin
to make positive improvements, that is true. But ... I would say
to anyone ... that they don't only have to think about the
negative reality, because they can also uplift themselves with
the positive idea of what could be.
....
If I may say to sum up ... it's good to dream, and not be
defeated by the harsh reality all too often. Although, it's
possible that these forums are weighing too heavily on one
aspect, the boney aspect of beauty, and neglecting that ..
nourishment, nature, fresh air ... and even dreaming a dream of
absolutely anything at all, to uplift the mood a bit ... all
play a role in shaping true beauty eventually. And, of course it
takes patience ..
I hope this all helps :) .. Salome
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