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       #Post#: 1799--------------------------------------------------
       belt facepulling question
   DIR By: z0nt0n3r
       Date: March 21, 2017, 11:50 am
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       i've began belt facepulling again but now i'm a bit worried
       because the belt has left a red line-scar on the left corner of
       my mouth.maybe i did it wrong a couple of times.will the scar
       disappear on it's own?if not should i go to a dermatologist or
       should i use a natural method to try to remove it?i do the
       method where you fasten the belt to a pull up bar and use your
       body weight as the pulling force.
       #Post#: 1800--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: z0nt0n3r
       Date: March 21, 2017, 12:56 pm
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       actually it has left 2 red scars in BOTH corners of my mouth..i
       don't even wanna go outside :/
       #Post#: 1801--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: March 21, 2017, 3:34 pm
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       --- Quote from: z0nt0n3r link ---
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       > i do the method where you fasten the belt to a pull up bar and
       use your body weight as the pulling force.
       >
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       What could go wrong?
       You need to man up and pull harder. Don't mind if some teeth
       fall out, your dentist can fix them back. Just pull HARD so that
       the maxilla can really explode forward.  In three months you
       will be a new person.
       #Post#: 1802--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: jamo716
       Date: March 21, 2017, 5:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: Progress link ---
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       > [quote author=z0nt0n3r link=topic=243.msg1799#msg1799
       date=1490115004]
       > i do the method where you fasten the belt to a pull up bar and
       use your body weight as the pulling force.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What could go wrong?
       You need to man up and pull harder. Don't mind if some teeth
       fall out, your dentist can fix them back. Just pull HARD so that
       the maxilla can really explode forward.  In three months you
       will be a new person.
       [/quote]
       dude come on Progress
       also OP those red lines should go away. they're just temporary
       from the stress that you're putting on your skin. I don't really
       advocate for belt method these days though, just know there are
       major risks involved.
       #Post#: 1803--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: z0nt0n3r
       Date: March 21, 2017, 5:52 pm
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       yeah i guess that makes sense because unless i did something
       wrong there is no other explanation why it happened
       #Post#: 1804--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: MeltedFace
       Date: March 22, 2017, 9:06 am
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       Belt Pulling is highly controversial from a lack of MANY good
       examples post Puberty. I'd cease everything and Mew. Years -
       that's what bone needs to change... unless you work with someone
       in Orthotropics and use their devices....
       #Post#: 1805--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: z0nt0n3r
       Date: March 22, 2017, 11:25 am
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       the first month that i began belt facepulling i saw some very
       good results at the age of 22 but then the progress dramatically
       slowed down but i was still seeing some small progress until the
       neck/red scar problems appeared.
       also @jamo716 did you get the red lines too?if you did,how long
       did it take until they disappeared?i'm rubbing some lemon juice
       with a cotton ball hoping they fade away but i don't know if it
       will improve it or make it worse
       #Post#: 1806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: jamo716
       Date: March 22, 2017, 3:40 pm
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       --- Quote from: z0nt0n3r link ---
       >
       > the first month that i began belt facepulling i saw some very
       good results at the age of 22 but then the progress dramatically
       slowed down but i was still seeing some small progress until the
       neck/red scar problems appeared.
       >
       > also @jamo716 did you get the red lines too?if you did,how
       long did it take until they disappeared?i'm rubbing some lemon
       juice with a cotton ball hoping they fade away but i don't know
       if it will improve it or make it worse
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       sorry i wasnt aware you were having longterm problems with it.
       honestly I would use a different belt or even stop doing it if
       it causes issues still. to avoid this issue i generally would
       fold me belt in half width wise so that it could easily fit in
       my mouth. i have to agree with meltedface in that proper,
       forceful mewing is the safest longterm solution.
       #Post#: 1807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: March 22, 2017, 3:56 pm
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       You could also soften the belt by wrapping a towel or a piece of
       cloth around it.
       #Post#: 1808--------------------------------------------------
       Re: belt facepulling question
   DIR By: TheNo0n3
       Date: March 23, 2017, 7:42 am
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       I was thinking tho, why use a belt? What i want to say is
       doesnt a belt have too much of pointed force, I mean it doesnt
       cover the surface of your whole upper jaw so the pressure is
       uneven and causes problems. Why not a towel so you spread it
       from the back to the front teeth or was thinking of buying a
       mouth guard and putting gums inside it to make it softer or
       something else, because the teeth will pass through the gums,
       and press on it so it evens out the forces throughout the
       maxilla. Just an idea tho, I am not really planning on doing
       that method, so I cant test it.
       
       In terms of slowing results, excessive and frequent
       pulling does seem to reasult in that because the bone develops
       scar tissue and gets resistant with time, however, trying to
       research about the bone's reaction to pressure and asking
       friends who study medicine, I couldnt get any information.
       About the scars, if they are stretch marks you are
       screwed dude, this has no removal except lasor in a limited time
       before the stretch mark becomes white, there are some creams and
       things like that who give amazing results but 100% removal is
       not achievable. But I really really doubt that they are stretch
       marks so don't worry, most likely they are going to heal with
       time.
       Anyway, I really think there is a bit of a wrong
       obsession with getting the small face and using belt to achieve
       it. Several people posted more than amazing results from a year
       or so of chewing gum and mewing. And this is really what you
       need, a millimeter or 2 difference and I can tell you from
       personal experience, because my left part of the face is a
       millimeter or so longer and the difference is horrific. My right
       part of the face has pretty good jawline, the eye has good
       zygomatic bone support and the face has good forward growth, the
       left the eye looks bigger, cuz no support from the zygomatic
       bone, my masseter muscle become a bulge when flexed, the line
       next to the nose is bigger and overall looks like its melting,
       plus I really believe symmetry is what really matters. Look at
       Lucky Blue Smith for example, dude has dropped maxilla, eyes
       look always supper sleepy and has that big gummi smile, but he
       is really pretty, because he really has that symmetry and
       harmony in the face. Other examples are Nick Bateman, Francisco
       Lachowski, who actually has pretty good formard growth. You
       really need a millimeter or 2 and strenghtening the muscles
       which will tighten the skin and make it look healthier and
       younger.
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