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       Re: My experience
       By: nicolettemala Date: May 15, 2017, 11:13 am
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       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=222.msg1644#msg1644
       date=1484777401]
       Progress, I can actually recall you recommending belt face
       pulling and towel pulling at the molars.
       mid-palatal suture is far from fused? if thats the case then why
       do people bother getting surgery to expand their palates. Its
       fused its fixed, They have to split it down the middle to allow
       expansion its the only way.
       And I've met with Mew himself in person and I talked about all
       this. He's almost a different person to his videos (in his vids
       hes all very optimistic, draws you in, salesman like, grounded
       by his facial growth evidence on children). When I saw him he
       was dismissive that changing of facial structure is very minute,
       nothing can be done. coming from mew himself. I dont know how
       much you are dedicated to this but thats enough to get it in my
       thick skull the amount of delusion I was in.
       Its just the same oral posture mumbo jumbo he recommended. Im
       not denying mews oral posture, having good oral posture for the
       past two years gave me slow results, but then again that could
       have also been due to puberty, chewing hard gum and even
       weightlifting.
       Im sorry it seems like its all a big lie, im so stupid to
       believe all of this. stupid to waste this much time on it. Guys
       other than mew giving advice are all in it for the money and
       what do you get? hope, false promises an xray from plato, a
       supposed ct scan of an old woman and some distorted photos.  The
       people on here who have had negative experiences dont post,
       probably cause of shame.
       I swear anyone coming to this forum please please please dont
       get your hopes up its all RUBBISH. ABSOLUTE RUBBISH. Take it
       from me.The only satisfaction I get is helping people avoid
       danger. Where is Tyler these days? the guy who had the most
       amazing facial transformation, he told the truth he warned you
       guys.
       [/quote]
       How come everyone is supposed to believe your NEGATIVE testimony
       (first one I've heard) with NO pictures..but you want us to
       discount many Positive testimonies with photographic proof?
       Plus, your stance is so aggressive I find it hard to believe it
       comes from a place of concern...I am sorry you've had a bad
       experience. Maybe you don't want others to have improvement on
       their face since yours went wrong? I hope you can fix what you
       ve done with little time and effort :)
       #Post#: 2748--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My experience
       By: Greg Date: October 19, 2018, 12:58 pm
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       I know this thread is kind of old but I agree with it. As an
       adult if you want serious bone changes go for surgery. From what
       I've read the bone changes you'd get as an adult from mewing,
       good posture may be about 1 maybe 2 mm over years and years. Not
       significant at all. Get surgery and mewing for maintenance.
       That's what I'm doing anyway. No point in wasting years for a
       possible improvement.
       On that note though I've wondered if taking growth hormone
       and/or testosterone along with mewing could actually provide
       measurably better results? Anybody try that?
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       Re: My experience
       By: Gearhead Date: March 11, 2019, 5:29 pm
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       I wouldn't lump belt pulling in with palate expanders. Bumping
       intermolar width up by 3-4mm is not uncommon with them.
       I've yet to see anyone with results from face pulling. I'm not
       even sure where the face pulling theory comes from, but I don't
       believe it's practiced by any doctor - while adult palate
       expanders are. It just depends on what we're talking about here.
       If you're trying to go from an intermolar width of 36mm to 42mm,
       that may be achievable with a DNA appliance or Homeoblock
       appliance. But if you're sitting at 33mm and need 46mm, lol no
       way way no how. You're in SARPE or bust territory.
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