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       #Post#: 1486--------------------------------------------------
       What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: berkeley07 Date: December 19, 2016, 9:59 am
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       Title says it all. Cheers.
       EDIT: What's the difference between RME and Palate Expansion by
       the way? They both make the face wider, right?
       #Post#: 1487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: therealadam Date: December 19, 2016, 11:21 pm
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       I had some guy name me this:
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.de/
       I ordered a pair but they are yet to arrive, so I cannot
       guarantee they're the best.
       Let me know of any others! 8)
       #Post#: 1488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: Betterbytheday Date: December 20, 2016, 10:28 am
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       RME is rapid maxillary expansion which is just palate expansion
       at a faster rate (not favorable)
       Yes! braceshop is legit. Make sure to send good moulds and they
       will fit fine. The best ones imo would be the maxillary plate /
       the upper jaw plate. If it sits higher in the palate the
       expansion would be more structural. The Y plate just doesn't
       really hit the upper areas where it really counts. The other one
       that looks good is the 3 pin expansion plate which has screws
       near the back of the molars.
       #Post#: 1493--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: berkeley07 Date: December 20, 2016, 6:32 pm
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       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=200.msg1488#msg1488
       date=1482251294]
       RME is rapid maxillary expansion which is just palate expansion
       at a faster rate (not favorable)
       Yes! braceshop is legit. Make sure to send good moulds and they
       will fit fine. The best ones imo would be the maxillary plate /
       the upper jaw plate. If it sits higher in the palate the
       expansion would be more structural. The Y plate just doesn't
       really hit the upper areas where it really counts. The other one
       that looks good is the 3 pin expansion plate which has screws
       near the back of the molars.
       [/quote]
       Thank you! Can you link which ones I should buy please? Also,
       would I need to wear retainers once done with this?
       Another question, don't I need to expand my lower jaw as well?
       Thanks again  ;D, appreciate it - I've been wanting to do this
       for some time, but I get easily overwhelmed with all the
       information and it's not exactly cheap...
       #Post#: 1495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: Betterbytheday Date: December 20, 2016, 8:11 pm
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  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Plate-Upper-jaw::51.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Modified-Upper-Jaw-Stretching-Plate::78.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Offer-Modified-Upper-Lower-Stretching-Plate::80.html
       First one is the upper Jaw plate which I purchased, second link
       is the full upper jaw stretching plate which has extra screws by
       the rear molars. If I would buy again I would buy the full upper
       jaw stretching plate. Ive also linked to a combo deal which
       comes with a lower jaw plate. Cant comment on lower jaw
       expansion its really difficult to expand the lower jaw so
       probably not worth it. As you advance and swing the maxilla
       upwards the lower jaw naturally comes up anyways and makes up
       for the distance (So i've been told).
       You wouldn't need a retainer if you had really good oral
       posture. Your tongue to the palate would support the teeth.
       #Post#: 1497--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: berkeley07 Date: December 20, 2016, 11:00 pm
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       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=200.msg1495#msg1495
       date=1482286315]
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Plate-Upper-jaw::51.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Modified-Upper-Jaw-Stretching-Plate::78.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Offer-Modified-Upper-Lower-Stretching-Plate::80.html
       First one is the upper Jaw plate which I purchased, second link
       is the full upper jaw stretching plate which has extra screws by
       the rear molars. If I would buy again I would buy the full upper
       jaw stretching plate. Ive also linked to a combo deal which
       comes with a lower jaw plate. Cant comment on lower jaw
       expansion its really difficult to expand the lower jaw so
       probably not worth it. As you advance and swing the maxilla
       upwards the lower jaw naturally comes up anyways and makes up
       for the distance (So i've been told).
       You wouldn't need a retainer if you had really good oral
       posture. Your tongue to the palate would support the teeth.
       [/quote]
       Thank you! I am wearing permanent retainers from conventional
       braces now though, would it screw up with the palate expansion?
       I am guessing not since the palate expansion expands the outer
       teeth and not the front teeth, and my retainer only sits in the
       front teeth, but I want to be sure.
       Thanks again, seriously, appreciate it, finally I can fix my
       smile.
       #Post#: 1498--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: therealadam Date: December 22, 2016, 5:05 am
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       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=200.msg1495#msg1495
       date=1482286315]
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Plate-Upper-jaw::51.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Modified-Upper-Jaw-Stretching-Plate::78.html
  HTML http://www.bracesshop.net/Fake-Braces/Offer-Modified-Upper-Lower-Stretching-Plate::80.html
       First one is the upper Jaw plate which I purchased, second link
       is the full upper jaw stretching plate which has extra screws by
       the rear molars. If I would buy again I would buy the full upper
       jaw stretching plate. Ive also linked to a combo deal which
       comes with a lower jaw plate. Cant comment on lower jaw
       expansion its really difficult to expand the lower jaw so
       probably not worth it. As you advance and swing the maxilla
       upwards the lower jaw naturally comes up anyways and makes up
       for the distance (So i've been told).
       You wouldn't need a retainer if you had really good oral
       posture. Your tongue to the palate would support the teeth.
       [/quote]
       yeah totally agree, bought the upper jaw plate as a starter.
       I'm a bit dubious about the stretching plate, especially if you
       were to do it without the help of a dentist. It would push the
       front teeth forward, but also push the rear teeth back. If you
       were to buy the stretching plate because you wanted to use the
       stretching feature, Id say to just face pull with the upper jaw
       plate.
       #Post#: 1499--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: therealadam Date: December 22, 2016, 5:09 am
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       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=200.msg1495#msg1495
       date=1482286315]
       Thank you! I am wearing permanent retainers from conventional
       braces now though, would it screw up with the palate expansion?
       I am guessing not since the palate expansion expands the outer
       teeth and not the front teeth, and my retainer only sits in the
       front teeth, but I want to be sure.
       Thanks again, seriously, appreciate it, finally I can fix my
       smile.
       [/quote]
       I don't think you'd be able to wear both because the palate
       expander will basically be like wearing a full sized retainer.
       The palate expander should also act like a retainer for your
       front teeth.
       also btw any of you guys have resources for self ncr?
       #Post#: 1506--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: berkeley07 Date: December 23, 2016, 1:21 am
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       [quote author=therealadam link=topic=200.msg1499#msg1499
       date=1482404989]
       [quote author=Betterbytheday link=topic=200.msg1495#msg1495
       date=1482286315]
       Thank you! I am wearing permanent retainers from conventional
       braces now though, would it screw up with the palate expansion?
       I am guessing not since the palate expansion expands the outer
       teeth and not the front teeth, and my retainer only sits in the
       front teeth, but I want to be sure.
       Thanks again, seriously, appreciate it, finally I can fix my
       smile.
       [/quote]
       I don't think you'd be able to wear both because the palate
       expander will basically be like wearing a full sized retainer.
       The palate expander should also act like a retainer for your
       front teeth.
       also btw any of you guys have resources for self ncr?
       [/quote]
       Good point... Fuck, do I have to remove my permanent retainers
       now? Is there no other way to expand my palate?
       I'm surely beyond saving if I can't wear a palate expander now.
       #Post#: 1562--------------------------------------------------
       Re: What is the best cheap palate expander to get online?
       By: therealadam Date: January 8, 2017, 12:40 pm
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       Well, how long do you have to wear your retainers? Can't you
       just palate expand when you get them removed?  I think that the
       palate expander should act as a retainer, but I am a very
       uninformed opinion.
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