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#Post#: 1347--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: QuantumLookMaxer
Date: September 13, 2016, 7:39 pm
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Also, try biting down on a towel with your anterior teeth only
as far back as the 2nd bicuspids. This might reverse the biting
with the second molars you were doing. Just a thought.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Betterbytheday
Date: September 14, 2016, 10:22 am
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Thanks for the replies guys, QuantumLookMaxer I've noticed ive
been mouth breathing at night and this has been probably the
biggest culprit. I struggle with this because ive actually had a
turbinate reduction which caused symptoms of ENS(empty nose
syndrome). Im a unique case because if I were to expand my upper
jaw for cosmetic reasons and to broaden my cheekbones it would
make my nasal airway even more empty. This is one thing that
makes me hesitant for getting ncr mainly cause I dont want to
tamper with my nasal airway and risk making the symptoms worse.
Another thing was Mewing, imo getting the rear of the tongue to
the back of the palate burns through your gonial angle because
the muscles just under your jaw contract and have got no where
to go (since your jaw is already narrow). Just like when you
open your mouth with a fixed head posture your jaw swings back
into your thoat and it feels uncomfortable, over time the gonial
angle would remodel around the airway. Mew himself described
this with the mew push swallow. Looking back I should've just
kept with it though
I'll try to maintain good oral posture and try some mild pulling
with my bicuspids
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: bob
Date: October 18, 2016, 8:41 am
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Hey, I was just wonering exactly how do you use a towel to face
pull? I've been trying it and I feel like i've been doing it
wrong.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Ryan
Date: October 21, 2016, 2:26 am
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Hi bob,
I've not been using a tower , but basically I believe it is the
same as using a belt (Which i am using)..
Basically you bite on the towel, as deep as you can so your back
molars are biting them, and you pull in a direction that is in
between forward (away from your face) and upward. That way you
are pulling your whole maxilla up and fowards . The amount of
time or interval people do this, varies. You could start doing
it like 10 times a day for 30 minutes and look in the mirror
after these days and see if you see any minor difference. Just
be sure to study and remember your face well, since some people
might not see differences just because they don't know their
face well enough. Face pulling and such goes slowly, but (at
least to me) the results after a while are really worth it. They
will motivate you to deep doing it!
#Post#: 2349--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: TheGreatWork
Date: July 7, 2017, 5:36 pm
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I just want to note that this thread was going great until
Betterbytheday showed up and started casting unreasonable doubt
on everything. Even to the point of saying that the posterior of
the tongue pushing the hard palate is bad for your gonial angle,
which we know is not true.
I think it's viable to completely ignore anything betterbytheday
said, their situation seems to be completely unique and their
facial deterioration cannot be explained by facepulling or
mewing
Any other progress updates, if anyone from this thread is still
here?
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: July 8, 2017, 7:49 am
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--- Quote from: TheGreatWork link ---
>
> I just want to note that this thread was going great until
Betterbytheday showed up and started casting unreasonable doubt
on everything. Even to the point of saying that the posterior of
the tongue pushing the hard palate is bad for your gonial angle,
which we know is not true.
>
> I think it's viable to completely ignore anything
betterbytheday said, their situation seems to be completely
unique and their facial deterioration cannot be explained by
facepulling or mewing
>
> Any other progress updates, if anyone from this thread is
still here?
>
--- End Quote ---
Oh man, seriously f*ck off, the first time there was this other
guy who flamed on BetterByTheDay's post and I was too lazy to
comment, but now that there are two of you delusional ignorant
souls I cant hold it. First of all there are only two
testimonials with pictures of people who did belt facepulling
and I havent seen the smile of both of them, neither has anyone
who did face pulling talked about it. Have you seen what happens
with the teeth when u expand the jaw in the course of 3 months?
They look like abandoned wooden fence. So how do you think they
are going to look when expanding and changing the whole skull in
the course of 2 weeks. Have you seen people with bruxism and
their teeth? They are half sunken in the gums, same with the
belt, so I hope you understand that u just cant do this and to
look perfect without having any professional work done. I dont
know for how much time u have been into the topic but there are
a lot of people who are pulling on the wrong places with wrong
force and get all different results that are not what really is
expected and there is no going back. Something else, someone
once wrote that when pulling he felt his jaw more relaxed but
after some time the sensation disappeared, so he though that
maybe that is how the jaw is supposed to really be. Well, no, as
strangely as it sounds it is because of dislocation of the TMJ,
the lack of alignement of the TMJ can not only cause pain, but
can also cause relaxation, something by which the people
conducting the studies were very amazed by. And believe me, you
dont want TMD, nothing is worth it. And what he was saying was
truth, claiming power in the beginning was to help people, after
that he was about the money. And honestly the only person who
looked better after the face pulling with the hockey mask was
patient zero, the others are just delusional seeing things that
are not there and imo looking much worse with huge assymetry,
sunken eyes because they have pulled the bone out of the eye
support and so on. These things are hell and everybody is
trapped in the torturing of his own mind, myself included, but
at least dont be delusional and dumb about it.
#Post#: 2360--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: TheGreatWork
Date: July 8, 2017, 11:01 am
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--- Quote from: TheNo0n3 link ---
>
> [quote author=TheGreatWork link=topic=20.msg2349#msg2349
date=1499466990]
> I just want to note that this thread was going great until
Betterbytheday showed up and started casting unreasonable doubt
on everything. Even to the point of saying that the posterior of
the tongue pushing the hard palate is bad for your gonial angle,
which we know is not true.
>
> I think it's viable to completely ignore anything
betterbytheday said, their situation seems to be completely
unique and their facial deterioration cannot be explained by
facepulling or mewing
>
> Any other progress updates, if anyone from this thread is
still here?
>
--- End Quote ---
Oh man, seriously f*ck off, the first time there was this other
guy who flamed on BetterByTheDay's post and I was too lazy to
comment, but now that there are two of you delusional ignorant
souls I cant hold it. First of all there are only two
testimonials with pictures of people who did belt facepulling
and I havent seen the smile of both of them, neither has anyone
who did face pulling talked about it. Have you seen what happens
with the teeth when u expand the jaw in the course of 3 months?
They look like abandoned wooden fence. So how do you think they
are going to look when expanding and changing the whole skull in
the course of 2 weeks. Have you seen people with bruxism and
their teeth? They are half sunken in the gums, same with the
belt, so I hope you understand that u just cant do this and to
look perfect without having any professional work done. I dont
know for how much time u have been into the topic but there are
a lot of people who are pulling on the wrong places with wrong
force and get all different results that are not what really is
expected and there is no going back. Something else, someone
once wrote that when pulling he felt his jaw more relaxed but
after some time the sensation disappeared, so he though that
maybe that is how the jaw is supposed to really be. Well, no, as
strangely as it sounds it is because of dislocation of the TMJ,
the lack of alignement of the TMJ can not only cause pain, but
can also cause relaxation, something by which the people
conducting the studies were very amazed by. And believe me, you
dont want TMD, nothing is worth it. And what he was saying was
truth, claiming power in the beginning was to help people, after
that he was about the money. And honestly the only person who
looked better after the face pulling with the hockey mask was
patient zero, the others are just delusional seeing things that
are not there and imo looking much worse with huge assymetry,
sunken eyes because they have pulled the bone out of the eye
support and so on. These things are hell and everybody is
trapped in the torturing of his own mind, myself included, but
at least dont be delusional and dumb about it.
[/quote]
You wrote a lot but didn't really say anything. If someone does
the practice incorrectly, they will have incorrect results.
Forces applied in the correct direction, in the correct amounts,
produce correct results. An up and forward maxilla will always
look better than a down/back one
#Post#: 2361--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: TheNo0n3
Date: July 8, 2017, 12:23 pm
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Yeah, that was my point. You cant apply forces in the right
direction, right force, correct amount, forget about it. Neither
you know them, nor you will do them. I have been saying this on
every second post I make but I want to avoid anyone hurting
himself, wanna know how I dislocated my jaw? Simply from chewing
gum, neither it was long, nor it was wrong. I had been doing it
for 40 minutes and it happened. You dont want to be in the place
of tmd sufferer, believe me. But do what you want, cant save
immature heads
#Post#: 2362--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: TheGreatWork
Date: July 8, 2017, 12:45 pm
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--- Quote from: TheNo0n3 link ---
>
> Yeah, that was my point. You cant apply forces in the right
direction, right force, correct amount, forget about it. Neither
you know them, nor you will do them. I have been saying this on
every second post I make but I want to avoid anyone hurting
himself, wanna know how I dislocated my jaw? Simply from chewing
gum, neither it was long, nor it was wrong. I had been doing it
for 40 minutes and it happened. You dont want to be in the place
of tmd sufferer, believe me. But do what you want, cant save
immature heads
>
--- End Quote ---
Getting your jaw dislocated by chewing gum is an incredibly
unique case, you've got something wrong with your jaw that most
of the population doesn't need to worry about. You should take
special precaution with everything you do, because your
situation is messed up. Anyone who has such problems should take
extra caution. You clearly didn't, because the jaw doesn't
simply dislocate while chewing without clear discomfort
beforehand - what you were doing was wrong. Those whose jaws
function correctly can take less caution, and stop to rest when
they feel discomfort.
Just because your situation is preventing your growth, don't be
like a crab-in-the-bucket where you want everyone else to stop
trying. We're figuring out the right direction, force, and
amount of force to get correct growth. Multiple people here and
elsewhere have said 30-40 minutes a day is the maximum to be
pulling, and you shouldn't pull when you feel pain. And an
upwards and forwards direction produces results, and coupling
everything here with mewing/endonasal improves results
dramatically. And others are seeing 5+mm of palate expansion
with devices.
And you want us to stop because you injured yourself, as if that
now has to be everyone else's problem. That's silly
#Post#: 2367--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: MeltedFace
Date: July 8, 2017, 10:17 pm
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The facts remain that we don't have MANY studies, examples, etc.
with good documentation or techniques and while we know what's
needed, getting there is very experimental aside from maybe what
Mike Mew is doing - and even HE admits to still testing things
for adults
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