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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: QuantumLookMaxer
Date: August 29, 2016, 4:00 pm
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Yeah, I'm not a big fan of using the belt to pull. I feel it
puts too much pressure on too few teeth. If you are going to use
a belt though, I recommend biting down on the back bicuspid and
FRONT molar, rather than the back molar (I heard Dr. Belfor, of
homeoblock, explicitly recommend this in an interview). Our back
molar isn't really designed for chewing on food, its function is
somewhat similar to wisdom teeth in that they help take space in
the jaw, not chew on food.
Personally, I've experienced teeth pain from using the belt
method. Betterbytheday's theory kind of makes sense, and just to
be cautious, it probably would be a good idea to spend some time
biting down with some of the more anterior teeth to get a better
balance.
FWIW, I think I've had the best experience using the mouthpiece
method and second to that the towel.
NCR has provided the most benefits I believe, but I think the
benefits are diminishing.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Betterbytheday
Date: August 29, 2016, 4:14 pm
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Mewing is beneficial as it provides gentle stimulation for bone
growth I can accept that. However belt pulling in my personal
experience is damaging. My jaw is just not the same as it was
and has gone from a squarish shape to more of a V. Pushing up on
the rear of the maxilla with heavy force is going to compress
your upper molars into the maxilla (along with the clicking and
cracking sounds). Its not recreating new bone or pulling the
maxilla forward. it is literally compressing your teeth into
your upper jaw. What will end up happening is the upper jaw will
be slanted upwards at the back and your lower jaw will follow
subsequently to be also higher at the back.
As for the cheekbone area being repressed I cant explain but my
cheekbones are definitely not more prominent they're more flat
and further in my face and my eye area has suffered. my eyes
feel more out of my head and when I smile I feel like the
wrinkles around my eyes are more deeper. Its quite hard to take
in cause I knew I looked slightly worse after a week but I just
kept with it and it got worse and worse. Ill upload some pics
for you guys.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Betterbytheday
Date: August 29, 2016, 4:45 pm
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PICS
This is after 1month. And again a guy I spoken to has seen the
exact same changes as me. Shorter narrower lower third and more
bloated midface.
Couldn't upload as attachments so:
Before
HTML http://imgur.com/a/P86TP
After
HTML http://imgur.com/a/WKMyR
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: nobody
Date: August 29, 2016, 6:03 pm
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Interesting.
I tried to match the photos on PS, and they seem to have been
taken from slightly different angles vertically (the after photo
being from a less flattering angle). It certainly looks like
your face was better in the before photo, but whether this is
just the result of the before picture showing your face from a
slightly lower angle and height, it's hard to say. But I believe
your word.
What kind of cracking are you experience by the way? When I mew
my sinus area tends to make an audible pop every now and that
feels relieving, kind of like some mucus or tissue gave up
somewhere deep in my nose. I never experienced any cracking or
pain near the gum area when pulling though (i never pulled as
much up as I did forwards). It actually sounds quite scary to be
honest.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Betterbytheday
Date: September 2, 2016, 12:48 pm
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I have taken many pics from many different angles and I cannot
recreate the angularity in the first pic. In every pic I
honestly just look worse. When Belt pulling upwards at the rear
molars you'll hear cracks or clicks as in the teeth are
compressing into the upper jaw this is the joints being
compressed. During this time I was chewing falim gum so in
essence my jaw should be wider ??? Now I look back chewing
along with upwards force at the rear molars is just making the
compression stronger. My cheekbones have become repressed making
my eyes look gormless. Again the most depressing thing for me is
I look worse and feel worse (my jaw just feels like its in my
throat, feel slighty tired and light headed all the time). I
just know my jaw has got longer and further down and back. And I
have symptoms of my upper jaw being further back but I cant
understand logically how why it is but I just know it is.
I feel I need to come here to release my frustration, family and
friends think i'm obviously insane. I mean who IRL gives a ****
if there cheekbones are receded slightly and the face and jaw
has become longer. But to someone like me who was already
insecure it really is a kick in the balls. I would be content If
I got my old face back.
And I dont know how you guys cope with this. I think I'm
honestly mental I just had a reality check and just thought to
myself wtf am I doing. Researching hours on these forums, biting
into belts and cutting my fingers trying to put shoelaces
through mouth-gaurds, obsessed with looking in the mirror
constantly to see if my jaw angle has changed, buying tonnes of
turkish chewing gum and chewing hard foods. Thinking people are
constantly judging me on my facial structure. Fuck it go and
live your life stop obsessing over this you Just cant win,
you'll just destroy yourself physically and mentally.
Its not worth messing with if your normal
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: MJON
Date: September 2, 2016, 5:30 pm
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Betterbytheday in a way I agree with you, by checking these
sorts of forums all the time I've become a lot more introverted,
and similar to you in that I'm obsessed with the idea that
everyone is now judging my facial structure. So even though I
definitely need something done, until then I am trying to just
get on with my life and think positively. I'm saving up and
working towards my goal of being pain free and happy with my
appearance, but there is definitely no point getting upset in
the time being, it's just making things worse.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Allnicc12
Date: September 5, 2016, 1:55 am
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I really would try and keep things as simple here, perform self
ncr along with mewing ie keep your tongue in the upper pallett,
if u cant do that then learn it, the reasons ppl will relapse
after ncr is because there not keeping the skull position in
place via the tongue, u dont even need to beltpull or facepull
anyway since mewing is doing the same thing, ncr will provide
the stimilus for suture seperation but its down to the your
natural retainer ie your tongue to solidify the new position,
stop looking in the mirror for changes, jus ncr and mew and let
nature and time do the rest, changes for the better will happen
but takes years not days and months, am only now geting
favourable changes and its taken 2 years of mewing.
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Betterbytheday
Date: September 11, 2016, 10:00 am
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Ive tried taking the pics from a more straighter angle to
highlight the jaw change. This vertical growth pattern has
continued even though i've stopped and I've tried to ignore but
it keeps growing like this I want to make it stop but I don't
know how. It just amazes me how much i've changed in face shape
over 1 month. Its like my face has melted away. :-\ Ive lost my
masculinity. I feel like people treat me differently. It messes
with your mind. Im usually quite tough to deal with this but its
fucked me over in so many ways. I feel depressed and feel
constantly fatigued. Ive lost weight from this and feel really
stressed out and I haven't been to the gym in weeks. My face is
so much more feminine.
Would NCR give me any benefits? Is there anyway I can apply
force to reverse it? I'm thinking of getting jaw surgery and be
done with this once and for all. Surely If I had changed this
quick in a negative way I should be able to reverse it and
change back in the same time.
HTML http://imgur.com/a/Zmhub
HTML http://imgur.com/a/pnORi
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Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: QuantumLookMaxer
Date: September 12, 2016, 7:19 pm
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Yeah, your face actually does look a little more feminine in the
after pic.
NCR might help you some, but not likely to fix your problem by
itself. I would advise just get back to basics. Teeth together,
lips together, tongue on the roof of the mouth. Breathe through
your nose. Most facial lengthening is tied to not breathing
through the nose. You might be subtly mouth breathing. If you
keep your lips sealed, and breath through the nose you may find
it to be uncomfortable, but just be mindful of the discomfort
and continue breathing through the nose.
You seem to be very anxious about your situation, try some
mindfulness meditation, it might help you out.
If you were able to f yourself up that quickly, you should be
able to fix yourself equally easily. Just focus intently on the
basics.
#Post#: 1345--------------------------------------------------
Allannic@hotmail.co.uk
DIR By: Allnicc12
Date: September 13, 2016, 1:27 am
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I agree, NCR or self NCR if u can do right, Bens instructions
are pretty good, but NCR to loosen up the joints along with
pressure from tongue on top of the palatte is all youll need,
but accept itll take time and not quick fix but the results will
be pretty much permanent, main reason people relapse is simply
because their tongue isnt holding the new shape in position
after NCR has been applied.
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