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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: BobShortdoller
       Date: July 2, 2016, 5:47 am
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       Bro you look creepy as hell in the new pictures. you had more of
       a bro look before im kinda straying away from trying this now
       :-\
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: Brutus
       Date: July 4, 2016, 1:38 pm
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       Can we see any pictures of your profile?
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: AutumnKnight
       Date: August 7, 2016, 9:22 pm
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       What do you guys think of doing Walrus' facepulling method with
       a Myobrace Trainer? I have an A3 Trainer.
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: bloom
       Date: August 12, 2016, 8:54 pm
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       Would simply biting down onto a thick towel and pulling upward
       and away work?
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: liv_vilke
       Date: August 14, 2016, 11:27 pm
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       Hi ppl! I want to try facepulling but I have dental crowns of
       upper infront teeth. Is there anyway not to break dental crowns
       by pulling? I really wanna try this method. Good idea with
       mouthgourd.   :)
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: August 19, 2016, 12:40 pm
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       Hey i've tried the mouth guard technique but I cant seem to get
       a good fit on my top jaw and when I try to pull it only pulls at
       my front teeth, so biting down on the mouth guard and pulling
       was only way. The force started bucking my front teeth out. Ive
       bought some more mouth guards to try again.
       @Bloom
       I Tried something similar with a belt and this actually
       repressed my upper jaw and my cheekbones!. The force has to be
       outwards and forwards only. Pushing upwards will compress your
       upper jaw and zygo area back
       The facepulling of bringing the maxilla forwards seems extremely
       unlikely, the guys that did it must have had NCR to allow the
       bones to be more malleable
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: Allnicc12
       Date: August 21, 2016, 4:41 pm
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       The 'belt' method does work slightly if the forces are pulled up
       and outwards as opposed to just up, all a headgear does is just
       that, pulls slightly upwards and outwards which is how u pull on
       the belt ie upwards and pull outwards away from your face, this
       does work so much better with NCR either by a practitioner or
       yourself if you know what your doing and what to feel for etc,
       reason being as the cranial plates are more susceptible to being
       moved and shifted, note your cheekbones will shift along with
       your entire skull from NCR alone and mewing because upwards and
       outwards is where your maxilla ideally needs to be for optimal
       air intake and NCR helps correct that position regardless of
       facepulling.
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: XyberH
       Date: August 23, 2016, 11:14 pm
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       I need help guys someone that has had sucess with this please
       email me @hernanbjuarez@gmail.com would really appreciate it !
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: August 27, 2016, 2:15 pm
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       UPDATE: Face pulling and belt method
       Ive spoken to a few people recently including a young fellow who
       has had negative experiences with belt pulling. When your biting
       down and pulling from the rear molars or wisdom teeth (if you do
       still have them). The force applied would compress your maxilla
       only from the rear which would swing the lower jaw upwards at
       the back not the front! Essentially this is making the gonial
       angle worse and actually rotates your lower jaw in a more
       unfavourable position making your lower third shorter. It would
       increase your jaw angle not shorten it. This maybe ok if your a
       woman but not so good if your a man. your lower jaw will 100%
       become narrower. Ever since I have done this ive noticed my
       orbitals have sunk and have been repressed. Again this is caused
       by upward force at the back of the maxilla it makes complete
       logical sense as to why it compresses your cheekbone area. I
       found this site though my own vanity and became set to improve
       my facial appearance despite being normal except for a slightly
       long midface, weak chin and mild crowding of teeth. I guess I
       paid the price and I fully deserve it. Would welcome any others
       opinions, experiences and advice on the matter. Im now looking
       into NCR to reverse the damage.
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       Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
   DIR By: nobody
       Date: August 28, 2016, 8:25 am
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       I have some opposing points of view for your consideration:
       - Bones are malleable, but they're not that malleable. Maxilla
       is still one bone, and by pulling it to any direction pulls the
       whole maxilla in that direction.
       - I'm finding it hard to see your logical sense in how upward
       force would repress your orbitals. If anything, moving the
       maxilla and zygos higher and forward should give the whole eye
       are more support, unless you've been pulling towards the back of
       your head (which would be quite difficult in the first place).
       - Mewing with posterior tongue gives constant force to similar
       direction than facepulling, and it nearly never makes facial
       characteristics worse
       Unless you took good before and afters, I'm pretty convinced
       that you're just experiencing placebo, because from personal
       experience I know how easily it can happen. The way I perceive
       myself in the mirror fluctuates from day to day, and other
       factors like amount of sleep, water retention, exercise and diet
       significantly influence daily appearance.
       Personally, I've been beltpulling mainly forward, since as a kid
       I had a nocturnal appliance that pulled my upper jaw backwards
       towards the neck. I've seen some improvement in overbite, but
       most dramatic differences have started coming from correct
       head/body posture and strong mewing throughout the day.
       It also helps to keep your lower jaw as relaxed as possible when
       belt pulling. You are able to anchor the belt to the upper back
       molars and the area behind it, "bite" down with the upper jaw by
       tilting head downwards. Then you should be able to just relax
       your face and pull forward.
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