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#Post#: 293--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: June 8, 2013, 10:54 pm
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I would LOVE to get a mouthguard and try it this way!
For the time being, I've been doing it via face pushing, by
putting my thumbs on the palate where my eye teeth are, and
pushing upward and outward as shown on the FP website. I am
getting results this way, but I prefer to do the mouth guard
thing. I'm not even sure where to buy those.
I do it with my fingers in short intervals (3 min at a time) a
couple of times a day. I can feel it in my TMD joint and my
cheekbones get slightly sore, like right after an NCR session.
In my case I believe less is more.
#Post#: 294--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Walrus
Date: June 17, 2013, 6:23 pm
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Hey guys, just a quick update on my progress.
I'm still using the mouthguard as shown before and results
continue to be great. My routine usually consists of a few
short sessions each day. I pull pretty hard, and after maybe
10-30 seconds my jaw/head starts getting sore/aches (no acute
pain or anything though!). I then stop and rest for a bit.
Then I repeat, maybe 3-5 times. It all comes down to how I
feel. Once I can't pull at all without ache I stop. Results
are immediate. I often look slightly different after treatment.
I never experience any post-treatment symptoms whatsoever.
Some interesting changes: My mandible now sits differently; my
tongue fits better within my teeth and my TMJ is much better; my
voice improves slightly after each treatment; better breathing.
Also, the method I use to pull involves wrapping the lace around
my first two fingers, with my thumbs on the bottom of the lace.
So basically I am making fists with my thumbs pointing towards
myself. It's pretty intuitive. My hands were also getting a
bit torn up, so I bought some cheap gardening gloves. The grip
with these makes the process even easier.
@Jay: It's just a single mouthguard for the top teeth as shown
in the picture. Probably the most simple mouthguard you can
buy. You shouldn't be pulling on your bottom teeth. Your
mandible should naturally come forward as your maxilla advances.
@MM: You can probably buy one at most sporting department
stores, or anyplace that sells hockey gear.
#Post#: 296--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Tyler
Date: June 17, 2013, 7:32 pm
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Cool update, Walrus! I will try your method tomorrow to see if I
can obtain immediate results, as well.
Later on the week I will post some new photos, and then I need
to make a video on lining up my face for comparison, lol - I
promised it to Ben and then procrastinated on the task for weeks
omg.
I noticed that my mandible sits differently, too. It looks much
more attractive, lol, although I do not know how to describe the
change. It seems to have "swung out", though, just like Plato
said it would.
#Post#: 297--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: MessiahMews
Date: June 17, 2013, 10:30 pm
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I think mine will begin to roll forward on the condyles and
drop. I think it's already on the way, because last night the
mandible jaw felt weird, not bad weird, but as in different
weird. No pain at all. A little soreness in the cheeks area
similar to what it feels like after NCR.
I'm still using my fingers though, and stop after my arms get
tired. I can go 4 minutes before stopping and I do that at
least twice a day.
I want to do it longer before posting pics though. Most have
already seen my progression in the NCR series. Which I'm
having another one (6th session) later on this summer.
#Post#: 301--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: viridian
Date: June 29, 2013, 2:13 am
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So I FINALLY got a mouth guard and made some holes etc. yay!
Mine is made of some kind of gel like plastic, which is probably
what they are all made from. Part of me worries that the holes
might stretch or something, but hopefully everything will stay
put.
My big question for those who are doing it this way, how do you
know if you are pulling at the correct angle? Are you pulling up
more, or away from you more?
And are you putting your tongue on the shoelace the whole
time?or keeping the guard in place by gritting your teeth a
little? - just not sure where the tension should be with regard
to the mouth.
Love some advice.
#Post#: 302--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Gaia
Date: June 29, 2013, 8:09 am
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Hi,
I've been lurking around these forums for a while now and I have
to say your face pulling and NCR pictures are very impressive
and inspiring. Tyler, your results are amazing!! Keep us posted!
I intend to start face pulling soon. In the meantime I've been
doing some orthodontic work on my own. This isn't something I
would recommend but I'm very satisfied with the results. I'm
doing lateral palate expansion with a Schwarz plate and after
only 3 mm of appliance expansion I now have gaps between all my
teeth and my cheekbones have come out a bit. My lower jaw also
came forward some on its own.
--- Quote from: Walrus link ---
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> Unfortunately though, I must have pulled a little too hard,
because during a session my retainer exploded.
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I was worried about this. People like myself who are using an
expansion appliance would probably try to attach the rubber
bands to it and start pulling. However, if it breaks a lot of
progress could be lost.
Has anybody else had this happen to them, where an appliance
shatters, bends or deforms due to the pulling?
#Post#: 304--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: s
Date: July 1, 2013, 9:43 am
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I was interested in getting a schwartz for myself? Where can i
get one without a dentist rx?
#Post#: 315--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: viridian
Date: August 7, 2013, 6:17 am
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Ok folks, I've been using the mouthguard and shoelaces for about
5 weeks or so. I don't pull for very long (probably only about
5mins or so), and there have been a few days that I missed.
It was hard to chart the progress for a while mostly because my
face gets puffy very easily and I have chronic fatigue and am
always trying out new detoxes etc. which set me off. So there
were days that I was looking in the mirror and thinking 'wow, my
eyes are so puffy and weird (or something) and does my face
always look like this??' And I couldn't tell what face pulling
was doing as my face would flare up and it was as though the
face staring back at me was quite distorted.
Many years ago I had some terrible dentistry done, and one of
the things that I had to do was wear this wire thing that
clamped around my upper back teeth whilst I slept. It was
supposed to push my back teeth further back to 'theoretically'
create more room for my other teeth that were cramped and not
sitting straight. Now of course I realise that this thing was
effectively pushing my mandible back, and doing the very
opposite to what I'm now doing with the shoelaces and
mouthguard.
All that time of wearing this thing to bed every night resulted
in quite a flat face. Though I'm only really realising how flat
it was now.
The biggest thing for me has been that I'm starting to get a
chin! It is a bit weird getting used to seeing it there, and
when I look at my face from 3/4 it seems odd to have to pop out
at me, as opposed to being receding.
And I think I've also noticed that the bridge of my nose is
coming out further - something which freaked me out at first, as
my immediate thought was 'my god my nose is getting bigger!' But
what is happening is that the whole face is slowly starting to
gain more dimension, and so my eyes are simultaneously seeming
more deep set.
All the changes so far are miniscule though really, we are
talking fractions of a millimeter here, especially as I don't
have a helmet so don't do it for 30mins.
I'm sure that no one else has noticed anything different!
As to whether I look better, it is hard to say. I probably look
more balanced as the lower half of my face isn't receding so
much. Though my face, to me, looks more boney. As it was
flatter, it seems more harsh now and as though I need extra bits
of fat. But as it is my face it is hard to tell which bits I'm
simply getting used to.
I have taken some lowish light photos just with the camera on my
laptop, and I can see more clearly in those that my face somehow
seems more compact, less long, less frowney and more pleasing.
When I look in the mirror though, I see a face that is slightly
different, not necessarily better, or more classically
good-looking, just a little different, more sculptural, more
harsh, and the skin/bags under my eyes seems to bulge more
(something the camera doesn't pick up).
The differences between what the camera likes and what the eye
prefers is interesting. The camera definitely likes more
sculptural qualities. Whilst in the flesh sometimes I feel like
I miss some of the softer bits that used to be there. Though I
also know that my face was/is problematic in that it is
asymmetrical and crooked, and whilst I have high cheekbones,
they were fairly non-existent directly under my eye, and that
part is now becoming slightly fuller and less sunken.
I will definitely keep going as I have back issues and feel that
it must come from the jaw. That is my main aim actually, a hope
that doing this will sort out other structural issues I have.
Finally I haven't noticed any differences in how people approach
me, or my relation to the world, as others have reported.
Though now that I think more carefully about it, maybe I am a
little less withdrawn, possibly not so much in my behaviour, but
in the sense of simply wanting to move out into whatever is
before me without hesitation. It is all still early days though.
Hope everyone else is going well.
#Post#: 316--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Tyler
Date: August 7, 2013, 6:44 am
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#Post#: 317--------------------------------------------------
Re: What are peoples "Face Pulling" experiences?
DIR By: Tyler
Date: August 7, 2013, 1:12 pm
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I wish to also say, as a personal part of my experience, that my
own face has not always progressed into more attractive forms;
which is to say, each increment of improvement from NCR and
face-pulling has not always been appealing to me afterward.
There are times when, due to the presence of bone which was not
present before, I have developed unappealing dimples, or my jaw
has seemed to grow vertically long again in a manner which
causes my face to look too long and narrow.
However, over the course of time, these unappealing features
have begun to shape into very appealing features. For example,
what was, for a span of approximately three weeks, a large
dimple in the side of my face has filled out to become a
prominent, rounded cheek which, adding a lot of width to my once
very narrow skull, nicely balances out the length of my face.
I cannot say that everybody's experience will be identical to my
own, but I am willing to estimate that some aspects of my
experience will be universal; namely, that some features will
seem disproportionate and asymmetrical for a time as the other
features "catch up", in a manner of speaking.
Take care.
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