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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: rozelynroux Date: February 3, 2014, 12:45 pm
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       Thanks for the heads up about the k-2! I'll keep a look out for
       a clean product for both of us. In the meantime I think I might
       try to make my own natto (fermented soybeans) because it is a
       natural source of k-2. Besides, I love fermented foods and
       soybeans.
       As for the website, a good idea might be to save the information
       in PDF form, so you can attach the file to emails for
       convenience purposes. Just a thought :) or perhaps A new thread
       could be started with the history of NCR being the first post?
       Thank you for the compliment :D I looked her up and she's
       beautiful. I often get Marilyn Monroe and Scarlett Johanson.
       Marilyn's face fits the golden mask perfectly, so she is the
       ideal beauty in my opinion.
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: MessiahMews Date: February 4, 2014, 1:18 am
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       [quote author=rozelynroux link=topic=2.msg633#msg633
       date=1391453123]
       Thanks for the heads up about the k-2! I'll keep a look out for
       a clean product for both of us. In the meantime I think I might
       try to make my own natto (fermented soybeans) because it is a
       natural source of k-2. Besides, I love fermented foods and
       soybeans.
       As for the website, a good idea might be to save the information
       in PDF form, so you can attach the file to emails for
       convenience purposes. Just a thought :) or perhaps A new thread
       could be started with the history of NCR being the first post?
       Thank you for the compliment :D I looked her up and she's
       beautiful. I often get Marilyn Monroe and Scarlett Johanson.
       Marilyn's face fits the golden mask perfectly, so she is the
       ideal beauty in my opinion.
       [/quote]
       Awesome Thanks!  We refer the Biotics Research K-1 product to
       expectant parents who want to avoid the Vitamin K shot for their
       newborns.  The shot itself is toxic and is K-3 (unusable by the
       body!).  Liquid chlorophyll, leafy greens is also good for
       expectant mothers, and most can avoid that shot.  I don't do any
       kind of soy (Soy is GMO), but do love the fermented cod liver
       oil.
       Jaime Alexander played Jessie on the Kyle XY series.  I loved
       that snarky character Jessie, and she played that part well. She
       plays Sif on the Thor movies.  I would love to have her face
       anyday!
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       My face is FAR from lining up with any Golden Mean Ratio,
       although it looks much better now.  I have too much buccal fat,
       and my nose is too big for my face.
       I bought one of those NasoFix things to slim it down, since the
       end is cartilage and easier to manipulate.  In addition to that,
       I will see about a vShape by Alma Lasers to do further
       contouring, and other lasers for resurfacing.  My skin itself is
       pretty good for my age, so I do have something to work with from
       there.
       I found you on facebook by your name, and followed you on there.
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: rozelynroux Date: February 4, 2014, 2:21 pm
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       It's funny that her character name is Jessie because that's
       actually my birth name :)
       I take chlorophyll and spirulina nearly everyday in my superfood
       smoothies. It does wonders for my skin. As for the soybeans, I
       only eat organic soy beans and organic soy milk. I'm pretty
       picky about what I eat too because I partly think being raised
       on a nutrient deficient diet caused the asymmetries I have now.
       Doesn't bone renew itself over seven or ten years though?
       Hopefully the k-2 along with a better diet can help developed
       more symmetrical bones over time. Hmm..
       I've seen your pictures documenting your progress. I think
       you've come a long way! You look vibrant. Did you personally
       notice any spiritual/emotional benefits from NCR or face
       pulling?
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: MessiahMews Date: February 4, 2014, 10:10 pm
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       [quote author=rozelynroux link=topic=2.msg638#msg638
       date=1391545283]
       It's funny that her character name is Jessie because that's
       actually my birth name :)
       I take chlorophyll and spirulina nearly everyday in my superfood
       smoothies. It does wonders for my skin. As for the soybeans, I
       only eat organic soy beans and organic soy milk. I'm pretty
       picky about what I eat too because I partly think being raised
       on a nutrient deficient diet caused the asymmetries I have now.
       Doesn't bone renew itself over seven or ten years though?
       Hopefully the k-2 along with a better diet can help developed
       more symmetrical bones over time. Hmm..
       I've seen your pictures documenting your progress. I think
       you've come a long way! You look vibrant. Did you personally
       notice any spiritual/emotional benefits from NCR or face
       pulling?[/quote]
       Thanks for all your kind words.
       I haven't noticed any spiritual benefits from NCR, but those
       came right after AtlasProfilax back in 2006.  Emotional is much
       better, I think partly due to improved appearance, plus not
       having near as much body pain.  I'm doing the ABC (Advanced
       Biostructural Correction) along with NCR which helps the
       unwinding process go even faster.  Not as much in the winter,
       since we are stuck inside due to snowy weather and icy
       conditions.
       I had a crappy diet when a young child too, plus my parents
       insisted I go to the dentist and during the process ruined my
       teeth, and face.  One pulled a permanent tooth instead of the
       baby tooth, and left my mouth with three baby teeth remaining
       until adulthood.  Plus, my mother NOT watching me when I was
       little and left at home by myself for a few moments, and playing
       in the back yard, I got kicked in the face by a horse which had
       gotten loose from the neighbor's house.
       I had dentist drilling and filling in imaginary cavities and
       putting mercury in.  When I got older, those spots were stains,
       not cavities and I started taking them off myself with a
       toothpick and baking soda.  My parents basically ruined my face
       and my health.  Not to mention, they never fought for us to
       refuse the vaccines, I also didn't need.
       There were always cheap boxed cereals, canned foods and no
       supplements.  The times we did have eggs, steaks, chicken and
       raw onions, lettuce and tomatoes, I was always thankful for the
       real food when it came.   I would have loved the raw veggies and
       fruits back then.  We picked blackberries, honeysuckle and green
       wild onions and anything that did grow wild in the yard and
       nearby fields and woods.
       It's taken me YEARS to regain my health from the lifelong
       deficiencies and unneeded treatments.  At least I look better
       and feel better.
       I'm so thankful and grateful for these cutting edge treatments
       and tech nowadays.
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: NCRintheUK Date: February 5, 2014, 6:21 am
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       Hi everyone,
       Firstly I want to thank Ben for creating this forum and to
       everyone who as contributed thus far. Keep up the good work.
       Now for my introduction. My name is Ian or as my friend Plato
       from the face pulling site
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       />likes to refer to me, "patient zero". I am sure that many of y
       ou
       will be familiar with my photos that are online and my story.
       I am going to post my full story on the thread started by Dr
       Mike Mew if you would like to read it there.
       I just wanted to introduce myself and let you all know that I
       fully supportive of everyone on here and what you are all trying
       to achieve.
       I am also the only fully certified NCR therapist in the UK and
       the only full time one in Europe. I was personally trained by Dr
       Dean Howell, the developer of NCR at the research institute in
       San Diego. I have a practice in Lancashire in the northwest of
       England but am free to travel wherever to treat people. I can
       offer NCR at a much lower rate than Dr Howell because I don't
       have such expensive overheads. I have personally had over 50
       series (200 inflations) with Dr Howell and Plato and I wore the
       FaceMAX face pulling device for 3 years plus and I have
       extensive first hand knowledge of many different types of ortho
       appliance, including ALF's.
       I can be contacted on ianhedley1@hotmail.co.uk if anyone has any
       personal questions or queries or alternatively I can be
       contacted on here.
       Yours in health,
       Ian Hedley
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: rockclimbg892 Date: February 7, 2014, 12:06 pm
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       Hi I just want to introduce myself. I found this forum about 2
       days ago through searching face pulling and I'm very happy that
       I found it.
       Ive been researching methods to reverse my traumatic extraction
       orthodontics for the past two weeks and I'm surprised at how
       many peoe have gone through it. Ive never took the time to
       question how much my face changed until I started looking into
       palate expanders online. I noticed the faces of people with
       beautiful, full toothed smiles and square jaw lines. I began
       crying last night when I realized how much potential my face
       could have had and how I may have suffered depression,
       irritability and breathing problems simply because I had
       extractions. All 4 of my premolars were removed. I also was
       recommended to remove my wisdom teeth so there is not hope for
       me to have 28 teeth. I have decided that I am not going to get
       implants because I cannot take the chance of having
       complications from it. The cost is too expensive and the idea of
       having metal in my mouth doesn't feel safe.
       So, Ive come across many different methods to reverse the
       extraction but like I said I'm not willing to do implants. I
       found out about homeoblock, and Mike Mew's orthotropics, face
       pulling, ALF and NCR among other appliances. I fortunately found
       this website and am so happy that Ive found a group of people
       who have the same concern aboutheir facial structure and
       improving it. I found the TMJ website with Plato's story but it
       doesn't seem like its active.
       Anyway, I started pushing the back molars on the left side of my
       face yesterday and noticed a huge difference in my breathing and
       concentration that improved dramatically. Ivr had depression and
       trouble concentrating in school so much that I had to drop out.
       And I'm dreading going back in a few months. I was talking to my
       dad and noticed that when he was telling me something I could
       not only understand it better but could respond faster. It was
       if my thinking the got faster. I also noticed that when started
       raising his voice it didn't bother me or make me nervous the way
       that it usually does. I also started breathing better and felt
       like a rush of oxygen to my brain. I don't see any physical
       differences on my face but it seems like I can feel a major
       difference in thinking and breathing. Being able to just think
       more clearly is what astounds me the most because I was
       considering taking a drug or getting on adderall to deal with
       school for the next few months. I had decided that I was just
       going to finish school and  after I'm done with college start
       working ANYWHERE I don't have to think. For example, my parents
       are pushing me to go to grad school for master's degree and I
       just refuse to because I know that it will be torture for me to
       study and I just can't understand anything in lectures. Even
       watching movies is difficult for me and I have to watch them
       with subtitles.
       So, I just started that little pushing in the back of my molars
       yesterday and I can't believe it. I can also place my tongue
       further on the right side of my face which I've never been able
       to do before. I feel as though I might have created more space
       in that area. I'm going to continue doing this and see what
       happens. :)
       Rachel
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: MessiahMews Date: February 7, 2014, 10:54 pm
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       Welcome to the forum Ian and Rachel!
       It will take me a LONG time for 50 NCR series, considering I
       have to pay nearly the same amount for travel expenses as the
       NCR itself.  My face still needs ALOT of work.  Nose is still
       too big, mouth (lips) too small, and undeveloped mandible, and
       unfortunately too many missing teeth, thanks to ignorant parents
       who took me to medical idiots that ruined my mouth at a young
       age.
       In order to do it myself, I'm going to have to take the
       EndoNasal Cranial Correction version from Jesse Jutkovitz, since
       the training costs are much less.
       @Rachel.  I can relate to crying at what my face could have
       been.  I'm still very upset over it, although I've had 7 NCR
       sessions, and have had much improvement.  My NCR doctor (Hillary
       Lampers, ND) does not do the Face Max as some of the other NCR
       doctors are now doing.  I think she's had the training, but just
       doesn't want to use it with her clients/patients.
       So in between sessions, I just use my fingers and push out in
       the same direction as shown on Plato's site and put them in the
       same area as the wires would have been.  I've been getting
       results with that.
       I would love to have palate expansion done, but there are no
       practitioners nearby that offers that either.  To fill in gaps,
       I want to use the SnapOnVeeners, as I feel the same as Rachel
       about metal implants in my mouth.  My dad had implants and he
       ended up getting cancer not long afterwards, so it is a NON
       solution for me.  My only hope is that the stem cell teeth would
       be coming in the near future.
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: Matt91 Date: February 10, 2014, 7:22 am
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       Just in case people find me 'weird' hanging around here, and
       missed my first post...
       I'm basically looking to NCR for a resolution to my non-specific
       learning troubles, which are somewhat atypical in relation to
       the 'standard' ones, i.e ADHD, but nonetheless pretty crippling
       for any more complicated tasks.
       I was delivered via rather panicked forceps, which I believe to
       be the source of the problem, rather than neurotoxicity from
       vaccines and all, as is often cited as the premier suspect on
       the alternative health blogs on the web. I didn't really have
       any vaccines, bar a couple, and under different conditions to
       the norm.
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: rockclimbg892 Date: February 11, 2014, 5:29 pm
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       Hi MessiahMew,
       Thank you for welcoming me. Like I said before, I really
       appreciate this forum. I feel that I may have found the reason
       behind some problems that I didn't even know I had and thought
       they were just a part of who I am. That I would always feel
       abnormal or uncomfortable in my body.  It wasnt until i started
       researching about this problem of having extractions that i
       found out about other people with the same stories and who have
       positive experiences with HOLISTIC treatments. I think it's
       important to emphasize the word holistic because messing with
       any part of your body often has effects and consequenced on
       other parts of your body that you may not even realize. For
       example, I'm almost 100% certain that having the premolar and
       wisdom tooth extractions has affected my breathing greatly and
       led to anxiety. I can't exactly prove this but i think I just
       feel uncomfortable all the time because i cant breathe as well.
       Especially, in serious situations. I cant talk for a long period
       of time without having to take a huge gasp of air and I feel
       hard to communicate in those moments.
       I haven't purchased any equipment yet, like a helmet or mouth
       guard but I believe that I will soon. I have also made an
       appointment with a regular doctor to see what they would suggest
       about my face and the breathing. I don't expect them to be
       holistic as they are from a regular hospital but am hoping that
       they'll refer me to a specialist.
       @MessiahMew, I have seen your photos of the changes in your
       profile after NCR therapy and it really looks stunning. I can't
       believe that much progress has been made. Congratulations! :) I
       can relate to you on having my teeth be affected by my parents
       but I think if they were educated about this it would have been
       prevented. I still get so angry with my mom about this though. I
       have been trying what you do, with just pushing at my back
       molars to go forward with my fingers and I feel a little bit of
       progress and more space for my tongue. I'm not sure what exactly
       the results will be for me, as I don't want it to look like I
       have a gap when I smile.
       @MessiahMew, I'm also sorry to hear about your father's cancer.
       Thank you for sharing that. I think it's so important to let
       people know about that. My mom was thinking about getting dental
       implants and now I am even more sure that it's not a good idea.
       And also, thank you for the input on snap on veneers. It's the
       first time I've heard of it.
       I'm really glad I found this forum!
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       Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
       By: Badgerlife Date: August 31, 2014, 10:24 am
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       Hello to everyone,
       My name is Bee and I am so excited I found this website! I come
       here almost everyday to see if there are any new post, this is
       by far one of my favorite sites.
       Anyhow, let me make a long story short. When I was eighteen I
       had my bicuspids removed, headgear, and braces. They kept the
       braces on for almost three to four years, yikes. I guess you
       don't know what you don't know. After they took off the braces I
       did not see a problem, if anything I thought I looked better. I
       did notice after a few years that my nasal labial folds looked
       weird, deep lines and my smile was quite small. Fast forward ten
       years later, now I really see the damage. Oh my goodness, the
       horror of looking in the mirror, the dreadful feelings and
       regrets!!
       I have loads of issues now, the neck pain, the grinding (teeth
       worn down), the ear problems, the visual issues,
       breathing...what is breathing? My maxillae looks caved in like
       someone punched in my mouth, high mandible, increased lower
       facial height, bags under my eyes, no cheek bones, small lips,
       open bite from tongue thrusting (not enough room for my tongue).
       I could go on and on but you get the picture.
       I don't even want to socialize with people, I dislike the way I
       look, I appear to look older than I am. My chin is about to hit
       the floor. It looks like my mandible is on a vertical slant, I
       have so much room on the side of my cheeks (three fingers can
       fit in there), that is how narrow my upper palate is.
       I went to see a TMJ specialist and he had me go around in
       circles, getting MRIs and medical test to just come up empty
       handed. His best suggestion was....get ready... to remove four
       more teeth! His theory was: remove the wisdom teeth and the open
       bite will close. After thousands of dollars later, that was the
       best he could come up with.
       Previous to that I had other consultations but got no where. So,
       I had enough and went on this eight month journey of non stop
       searching. In the process that is how I found this site,
       Mike/John Mew, Plato/Kevin, Claiming Power, Dr. Hang, Dr. Smith,
       Ian Hedley, Dr Howell, the list could go on and on.
       Anyone have any suggestions on what step to take next? I started
       Myofunctional therapy and currently I am seeing Dr. Gerald H.
       Smith, we might start the ALF due to cranial distortions. Anyone
       care to comment on Dr. Gerald H. Smith? I heard he is excellent
       and has a good reputation. I would love to hear any feedback
       that you guys might have.
       P.S. Will face pulling make the open bite worse? My maxillae
       looks like it could come forward loads.
       Thank you all,
       Bee   ;D
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