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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: chris
       Date: November 16, 2016, 5:44 am
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       lool ur a prick
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: November 16, 2016, 7:30 am
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       > lool ur a prick
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       just fite me irl faget i was one of the toughest lads in middle
       school my bro can deadlift 170 lbs when bulking
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: November 20, 2016, 9:33 pm
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       Jeez... What has this forum come to ::)
       For anyone that cares, I personally stopped NCR 2 weeks ago. I
       noticed vertical facial growth which NCR amplified and
       accelerated it. Dont even think of doing NCR if you havent fixed
       your oral posture, at best you will see no change and theres a
       high chance you will be worser off than before. I did NCR for 4
       days across 2 weeks. Funny enough everytime I did a NCR session
       before bed, I woke up Cheekbones were flatter! consistently for
       for those 2 weeks. since stopped my facial growth has
       'stabilised'. I was mouthbreathing everynight. No suprise
       though, NCR before bed, mouth hanging open BOOM maxilla is
       mobile, has no support falls back and down. Another thing I have
       or now notice is my tongue doesn't fit in the roof of my mouth
       anymore. Its even more annoying that people have commented on
       how my face has changed shape, (not people who I see on a daily
       basis, but people who havent seen me for the past 2months). I
       laugh while I die a little inside, makes me want to blast my
       brains out (jk). Looking on the brightside Im waiting on a
       palatal expander, ill be happy if I got my top jaw wider enough
       to have space for my tongue. Ill start NCR again when Ive got my
       posture right and hopefully look forward to great facial
       changes.
       Fix your oral posture first thats the main culprit
       #Post#: 1456--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: angelo22
       Date: November 22, 2016, 10:02 am
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       I'm sorry to hear that... But you know how to solve the problem,
       so I wish you luck :)
       One thing though, after how much time / how many NCR sessions
       (4?) have you started noticing the changes?
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: November 22, 2016, 2:55 pm
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       Thanks angelo. I noticed changes the morning after every
       session. I did 4 sessions per week so 8 in total.
       #Post#: 1458--------------------------------------------------
       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: November 22, 2016, 6:48 pm
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       I agree with everyone that has said to fix your oral posture-
       prevention is better than a cure every time. Having said that,
       I've been working on oral posture for over a year, and even
       though there has been a slight improvement I knew something is
       still up... Followed a self check online and I'm pretty sure I
       have a slight tongue tie, which would explain everything really.
       Anyone know how I can fix this? Feel like if I get that sorted
       it will hold any results from a palate expander etc
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: angelo22
       Date: November 23, 2016, 10:39 am
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       After a week-long break, I'm starting NCR again.
       I'm pretty comfortable with it now, so I will no longer record
       every single session and just talk about what's happening in
       general.
       Also, I put in the main post all the bits of information that
       helped me get better at it.
       I think I'm finally starting to see some results from all
       this...
       While I haven't noticed differences in the chin area and the
       gonial angle (it *should* diminish over time, but bone
       remodeling takes months, if not years),
       I think my cheekbones might be slightly more lateral than they
       were before, and my face looks "larger" than before.
       I think a good help also comes from chewing 1 hour a day a very
       tough gum, the mastiha.
       Started 3 days ago, but I already see a bigger temporalis
       muscle!
       And the pterygoids are probably stronger as well, and the
       masseter is always sore :)
       MJON: I don't know how to help you, sorry... Only thing I know
       is that tongue ties are usually treated surgically.
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: November 25, 2016, 5:28 am
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       @MJON
       After your palate was expanded, does your lower jaw bite now not
       align with your upper jaw? Surely if you expand the upper the
       lower would also need to be expanded. Ive often wondered this.
       Angelo thats great, exactly the results I want. I used to always
       chew falim gum and it really squared my jaw out. But now having
       a high gonial angle and large
       Masseter muscles does not look aesthetic and makes the face look
       bloated. Great facial structure and weak muscle tone is better
       than having a weak facial structure and great muscle tone.
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: November 25, 2016, 12:45 pm
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       The resting place of lower jaw will come forward as palate is
       expanded. This compensates for the difference in arch diameter.
       During the process, teeth on both arches will reposition
       themselves a bit to fit the new bite.
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       Re: My Self-NCR Diary
   DIR By: Doumi
       Date: November 25, 2016, 2:48 pm
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       @Betterbytheday
       I think that the lower teeth tilt in a way to match the upper
       palate if you keep your mouth closed and teeth together while
       widening. Search "Orthosmile - Expander" on Youtube - it's shown
       in the beginning of the video.
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