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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: angelo22
Date: November 4, 2016, 4:08 pm
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Added day 6.
Allnic12: I want to thank you for your sound advice, until now I
was waiting to feel the balloon already in the throat before
inflating hard, but inflating hard just before, while still in
the turbinate, and letting the pressure make the balloon hit the
sphenoid with force worked wonderfully.
It also allows to inflate more before the balloon goes down the
throat :)
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Allannic@hotmail.co.uk
DIR By: Allnicc12
Date: November 4, 2016, 6:30 pm
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No worrys dude, yep and thats the correct way its done, its not
for the faint hearted and lots of people do it wrong but yeah
you wont go wrong now u know how to pull it off and youll get
the teeth tingling, enjoy!
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Progress
Date: November 6, 2016, 12:40 pm
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Interesting. So from what I understand, is it better to have the
tip of the balloon slightly inside the turbinate instead of
having it poking out into the open space/top of throat before
inflating? I've been pushing it fully through the turbinate and
inflating as fast as I can and my teeth haven't been tingling
afterwards, despite managing to pop both ears.
On my early attempts I inflated inside the turbinates and it
felt like my nose was about to hurt a lot under the pressure.
Should I just keep pushing beyond that point and trust that the
balloon is going to push through the turbinate into my throat?
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: angelo22
Date: November 7, 2016, 3:08 am
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Well, if you see only the tip of your nose (mostly cartilage and
some bone) is getting pushed that's probably too early.. There
must be a sweet spot between the actual upper throat and the mid
part of the turbinates, so that if you build up pressure the
balloon will enter the upper throat with force. If you do it too
early in the turbinate, it will probably just pop the balloon, I
guess?
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: angelo22
Date: November 7, 2016, 11:17 am
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Added day 7.
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Progress
Date: November 13, 2016, 7:47 am
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Yeah that seems sensible.
In other news, I've been experimenting with pushing posterior
tongue hard towards the soft palate/upper throat while
inflating. Doing so appears to help in guiding the pressure
towards the sphenoid bone.
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: angelo22
Date: November 13, 2016, 8:57 am
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Indeed, proper oral posture is essential to achieve real,
lasting results.
Something that we also should strive to correct is the head
posture:
When we're not sliding our head forward, thus stretching the
back neck muscles instead of contracting them,
the tongue almost implicitly goes to the right spot :)
As for my NCR, I might take a break for the week to come... I'm
still feeling things in my skull and I'd rather wait a little.
Slow and steady :)
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: Progress
Date: November 14, 2016, 6:13 am
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I was talking about mewing hard WHILE doing the inflation, but
yes I agree with you totally.
As I fixed my head forward posture last summer, my mother
thought I had grown significantly taller, simply because I was
now standing straight and anatomically correct. It seems that
the way you carry yourself ( = how others perceive your height)
is much more important than a small difference in actual height
(say 1-2 inches). After starting paying attention to this, I've
seen 6'2 tall people who don't look that impressive because they
slough, and I've seen 5'10's who look in control of their
environment because they carry themselves with grace.
Although, with recessed maxilla and mandible the head will never
learn to stay in the optimal posture, because the nervous system
tends to want to position the head in a way that gives the
throat better airflow (head forward) and compensate for this
imbalance with the whole muscle chain from head to toes
(lordosis, tight pelvis etc). Eventually, once maxilla has been
moved forward and mandible is allowed to rotate out of the
airways, good head posture should probably become completely
automatic.
Until that point good posture is going to have to be consciously
maintained 24/7. Or what do you think?
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Re: My Self-NCR Diary
DIR By: angelo22
Date: November 14, 2016, 9:04 am
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I wouldn't want to give someone reading some false hopes, but I
really believe that improving the skull structure can result in
a more ideal equilibrium for the whole body.
While I'm not unhappy with my life, I never liked how my chin is
a little recessed, but the main thing I'm hoping for is fixing
my back, since I have a mild scoliosis and lumbar hyperlordosis.
It's not heavily debilitating and it's not ruining my
appearance, but I often have to rest my lower back after walking
for long, and it's hard to be completely relaxed while sitting.
The relations between the skull - orthodontical occlusion and
the spine are very interesting, and I'd like to study them more
once I graduate in dentistry.
And yes, correct posture needs some conscious effort since it's
not actually "natural" for your current structure. I rarely have
to fix my tongue position anymore, except for when I've just
woken up (need to train the chewing muscles, mainly masseters
and pterygoids), but I still need to constantly remind myself to
keep the head straight.
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Allannic@hotmail.co.uk
DIR By: Allnicc12
Date: November 15, 2016, 1:34 pm
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I will add that while i have no qualifications in any of this
nor studying for any like Angelo i know enough to what am doing
NCR in the way ive described only seeks to loosen up the sutures
from the Sphenoid so that a change can happen and your skull
over time alters, Mewing ie tongue on top of palate helps to
effect this change more rapidly and keeps the results stable,
your tongue is your natural retainer and balances out the forces
from your cheeks you have to learn to adopt that posture or any
effect you get will be short lived, its no different to having
Homeoblock or braces to increase bone width only to then relapse
many years later because your natural retainer wasnt up in the
palate keeping the results in place, NCR works and mewing keeps
the work achieved permanent.
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