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       #Post#: 1380--------------------------------------------------
       Facepulling with thumb locations
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: October 16, 2016, 9:20 am
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       Thanks to DonJohns from another forum, I found out a while ago
       that the *LOCATION* of the palate that is pressed on or pulled,
       determines the part of your face that is improved. Basically the
       frontpart (near mouth) area of your palate is related with the
       LOWER side of your face (chin etc) , while the deeper side of
       the palate (near throat) is related to the upperside of your
       face (eyes etc).
       Basically this means that it depends on your current face shape
       which part you should work on most. I have somewhat of a
       recessed chin (so lower side of the face) which means I should
       focus more on pushing up right behind my frontal upperteeth. Now
       for a few weeks apart from using the belt to pull my back molars
       up and forward, I now also do a seperate pull where I locate the
       belt on my first molars (first teeth you chew with) and pull
       upwards with it a few times using heavy force. After that I put
       my thumb in my mouth and push up (right behind front teeth) and
       hear alot of cracking sounds. I've noticed that my chin seems to
       have improved from it.
       The thing is that with the regular belt method, you only use the
       back molars, which does not help you to get the front part of
       your palate upwards. IF you keep on improving your upper part of
       your face using the molars far back, but forget the ones in the
       front, you are actually reducing making your lower side appear
       worse. If the whole face is more forward, but the lower area of
       your face (jaw) is not, then your underside looks more recessed
       (and relatively speaking, it is)
       If your chin is somewhat recessed (and alot of people have that
       these days) , the most results you will get is with pushing the
       frontal part of the palate part also. (or pulling upwards with
       belt facepulling)
       I have had alot of facial improvements from facepulling with
       either hockeymask or the belt before, but it did not help much
       with the chin area. This is the first time I'm noticing these
       parts improving somewhat.
       I *must* say though that although I may should have worked on
       improving the lower side earlier, the overal improvements of the
       face still by far are a clear improvement.
       So one should not be scared to try facepulling because this
       might happen. Every piece you bring forward, basically is an
       improvement. It just means you should also work on the other
       parts too.
       If anyone has any information or thoughts about this subject, it
       would be cool to discuss them here...We should work together on
       putting all the pieces together, since I do not think anyone
       else will do this
       Greets,
       Ryan
       #Post#: 1381--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facepulling with thumb locations
   DIR By: brownpanther
       Date: October 17, 2016, 12:05 am
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       Could you paste the link to the other forum here? I think a lot
       of people, including myself would love to read it. It would be
       very helpful.
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 1391--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facepulling with thumb locations
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: October 21, 2016, 4:56 am
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       "Selina93: So if I have flat zygoma but not receding chin what
       should I do? "
       well i do not know how your maxilla is rotated
       basically from what you describe there are a few possibilities:
       - Basically your maxilla as a whole can be neutrally rotated
       (good) but the maxilla is a whole is recessed: Then you need to
       get the maxilla as a whole up and forward. This means both you
       should pull up every molar-area evenly. So for example, use a
       belt and first bite between the last molars, push up AND FORWARD
       ...Then bite between the middel molars, push up (not forward) ,
       bite between the first molars, push up (not forward)
       You will only want to use the last molars to push the whole
       thing forward, because then the force from the last molar,
       pushes all teeth as a whole forward. If you bite on the front
       molars, and push them forward, I am not sure what will happen.
       (it might be totally ok, but i'm not sure about that)
       - The other option is that your maxilla is rotated, in such a
       way that the lower part of the maxilla is more forward than the
       upper part. In that case you would only want to use the last
       molars to get the back of your maxilla up and forward with the
       belt  (and pressing). If the back of your maxilla gets up and
       forward, ot should rotate the maxilla in such a way that it
       improves your eye region.
       Whether which one is the case, is dependant on the look of your
       face. Do you have wide jaws, do you have a prominent chin, do
       you have strong cheekbones, do you have a bump in your
       nose..etc?
       #Post#: 1412--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Facepulling with thumb locations
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: October 28, 2016, 3:04 am
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       - How is your bite? no overbite or under bite right?
       - If i remember well you had pretty good jaw area right?
       - do you have a picture from your face from the front or half
       front?
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