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       Sharing Results
   DIR By: brownpanther
       Date: October 11, 2016, 10:34 pm
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       How is everyone's journey with NCR and Face Pulling going? Is
       there anyone here that have seen great results and would love to
       share with the rest of us?
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       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: October 12, 2016, 10:24 am
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       Not so great, I've basically given up until I can afford to have
       ALF and professional help alongside it. I think it really helps
       having a bit of both- self driven improvement but also a
       professional input. Having said that, if you just want to do NCR
       I think it's fine without professional help.
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       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: QuantumLookMaxer
       Date: October 15, 2016, 7:37 pm
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       MJON, your self-expansion experiment didn't work out for you?
       Fill us in with the deets when you get the chance. I ordered one
       for myself to mess around with, but I'm not expecting much. It
       hasn't caused any damage for you, right?
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       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: therealadam
       Date: December 22, 2016, 7:12 am
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       --- Quote from: MJON link ---
       >
       > Not so great, I've basically given up until I can afford to
       have ALF and professional help alongside it. I think it really
       helps having a bit of both- self driven improvement but also a
       professional input. Having said that, if you just want to do NCR
       I think it's fine without professional help.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That's disappointing to hear. I hope you see good results with
       ALF.  I've ordered a removable palate expander that I'm going to
       use for face pulling (with rubber bands and a hockey helmet).
       So far I've used a myobrace that I've modified into a pseudo
       palate expander. It provides outward forces on the teeth, but
       doesn't put out enough force onto the soft palate to expand too
       much. Both my upper and lower palates have expanded; I think it
       is mostly teeth tipping and maybe some bone remodeling. I've
       gotten better facial symmetry and good tongue posture. The
       myobrace is nice because it makes good mewing posture easy and
       it stops me from mouthbreathing in my sleep; gives decent jaw
       gains too.
       I've also been using a Jawzrsize. This I would recommend to
       people. Gotten some good hypertrophy in the masticators. It and
       with other facial exercises have made my face more symmetrical
       and lifted my cheeks.
       #Post#: 1504--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: Betterbytheday
       Date: December 22, 2016, 11:46 am
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       @therealadam
       Curious where did you get your myobrace, and what size?. I have
       one of the cheap replicas, I dont even think it is even a
       myobrace just a plastic gum shield with a hole (more of a
       retainer sorta thing). I need something to stop my mouth
       breathing at night and the myobrace looks like it would benefit
       me.
       #Post#: 1522--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: December 28, 2016, 1:50 pm
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       QuantamLookMaxer, not so much that it didn't work it's just my
       progress has slowed down. Also I've realised I have a tongue
       tie, so any results I do have will probably revert unless I get
       my tongue tie sorted. So I definitely need professional
       intervention too. I'm back to wearing my palate expander
       however; figured I'll be getting professional help within the
       next few years so I may as well do as much as I can by myself
       now.
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       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: Progress
       Date: December 29, 2016, 7:44 am
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       --- Quote from: MJON link ---
       >
       > QuantamLookMaxer, not so much that it didn't work it's just my
       progress has slowed down. Also I've realised I have a tongue
       tie, so any results I do have will probably revert unless I get
       my tongue tie sorted. So I definitely need professional
       intervention too. I'm back to wearing my palate expander
       however; figured I'll be getting professional help within the
       next few years so I may as well do as much as I can by myself
       now.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       What made you realize the tongue tie? I've been a little
       paranoid about the possibility of having some subtle posterior
       tongue tie. I can push on the soft palate but sometimes I wonder
       how much beyond soft palate, into the empty space in upper
       throat, you are supposed to get the tongue?
       #Post#: 1563--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Sharing Results
   DIR By: therealadam
       Date: January 8, 2017, 12:53 pm
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       --- Quote from: Betterbytheday link ---
       >
       > @therealadam
       >
       > Curious where did you get your myobrace, and what size?. I
       have one of the cheap replicas, I dont even think it is even a
       myobrace just a plastic gum shield with a hole (more of a
       retainer sorta thing). I need something to stop my mouth
       breathing at night and the myobrace looks like it would benefit
       me.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hey sorry for the late reply, was out of the country for
       vacation and didn't have any internet. I bought both the the A2
       and A1 palate expander. I got the A2 from eBay, there are
       myobraces there occasionally. I got my A1 from alibaba:
  HTML https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Myobrace-A1-Appliance-for-tooth-crowding_60515825254.html.<br
       />I don't know if it was this exact seller that I bought from.
       You
       can also get the A2 from alibaba, but I would suggest buying the
       A1. The hard plastic of the A2 and the A3 expand too fast and
       just tip your teeth. The A2 and the A3 are also described (I
       think) on the myobrace website to be used for primarily the
       alignment of the teeth (A2) and as a retainer (A3).
       I bought the regular size; I don't know if they have other
       sizes. If I were you, Id buy a large too and see which one is
       better.
       I modified my myobrace because it doesn't cause too much
       expansion on its own and I think you would plateau very quickly.
       I also think if you had a large palate already, it might
       actually make it smaller.
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