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       Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 23, 2016, 9:49 am
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       Yesterday/ last night I started to experience jaw pain on my
       right side (more developed, usually pops. Other side doesn't.)
       It feels tense and I put it down to the palate expander, even
       though i hadn't felt it since I've been wearing the palate
       expander. I also had popping on the other side which don't
       usually get.
       Today it's moved to my temple on the right side, it just feels
       really tight and like a constant headache. I can't work out
       which of the following it is:
       -I didn't wear my palate expander the night before
       -My palate expander is causing that "tight side" to release but
       move back (meaning I'd have to face pull whenever I wear it)
       -I didn't face pull as much yesterday ( usually face pulling
       makes it feels much better)
       - yesterday was the first time I used a proper finger cot for
       NCR.
       I'm leaning towards its down to the NCR, as ive had pain from my
       expander by turning it too quick and I felt that in my teeth not
       have and it went away when I slowed the expansion.
       Has anyone experienced pain after NCR?
       #Post#: 1231--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 23, 2016, 2:12 pm
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       Hmmm weird, All pain I've experienced from NCR was in my nose. I
       highly doubt that your problem is due to ncr
       How old are you? It seems like you developed TMJ. Did you have
       any problems related to your jaw before?
       Try doing 1 thing at a time to detect which one  is causing the
       problem, maybe doing everything together was too much charge for
       you
       #Post#: 1236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 23, 2016, 4:30 pm
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       Improvement its weird, its no longer in my jaw now, just in my
       temple.
       Im 18, I had TMJ before really bad on my right side. It gets
       better if I chew lots and do face pulling (face pulling
       temporarily relieves it). I think you're right, I was hoping to
       do everything at once to speed my results but it will be
       difficult to track what is causing the results that way.
       #Post#: 1238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: reenochrobinson
       Date: July 23, 2016, 5:27 pm
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       I haven't had any pain from my NCR treatments. If anything it
       has helped with the tension headaches that I get sporadically as
       I haven't had one since I started the treatment. I agree with
       Improv that your symptoms sound like TMJ that would more likely
       be caused by the occlusal changes from your palate
       expansion/face pulling or maybe from fatigue of masticatory
       muscles. Hope you feel better soon!
       #Post#: 1239--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 23, 2016, 5:38 pm
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       Chewing a lot could be a reason. I used to suffer from TMJ and
       got rid of it in 1 month of mewing and facepulling. In those
       times my jaw would crack a lot when I chewed because of its
       malposition and after some hours I'd usually get sore. Anyways,
       I don't chew or facepull anymore, I'd prefer to wait until my
       palate is expanded since it's one of the most important things
       that should be done firstly
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       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 23, 2016, 6:57 pm
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       Reenochrobinson think you're right, nobody has reported pain
       after it. I'm hoping it will be gone by tomorrow, but I can't
       decide whether to keep up with the palate expansion or not.
       Improvement that's exactly what I'm getting except it's more
       popping on the right side. You said you fixed it, do you mean
       temporarily or permanently? Because if so I might do face
       pulling and chewing to get my palate in a better position then
       start expanding. My biggest fear is my palate expander will
       cause my upper palate to go back when it expands rather than
       forward. I can see why people seek professional help, but this
       won't be possible for me for at least a couple of years due to
       me going to uni so ive got to do what I can when I'm still
       young.
       #Post#: 1241--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 23, 2016, 7:27 pm
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       Yes, I fixed it permanently, I've been good for several months
       without a single crack.
       I don't think that your palate expander can move your maxilla
       backward
       Try as much as you can while you're still young and developing
       ;D
       Good luck my friend
       PS: Are you properly mewing?
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       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 24, 2016, 2:51 am
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       Wow improvement that's amazing, I got told this is something id
       have forever and basically to just deal with it!
       That's okay then, I just wasn't sure because my maxilla is high
       and forward on the TMJ- side but low and back on the other if it
       cause my face to match the backwards side or the nicer forwards
       side. But at the end of the day I just want a face where both
       sides match.
       Can you give me details of what your routine was to fix it? I
       might follow that to try and fix it.
       I think I am but I'm not actually sure. My face has come up and
       forwards since I've been doing it, but my stupid upper palate is
       still quite set back.
       *Forgot to mention, wore my palate expander last night and the
       pain is gone now*
       #Post#: 1245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pain, can't identify what's caused it
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 24, 2016, 2:05 pm
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       My routine was 1 hour of facepulling every night and a little
       bit of jaw exercises
       However, I think that the most important thing that I did was
       placing my jaw where it belongs. I used to move it forward to
       compensate my overbite, so I just fixed that
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