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       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 25, 2016, 5:34 am
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       I think it would be more comfortable than the reverse pull
       headgear as it doesn't have anything pushing against the
       forehead or chin.
       I can see what you mean but I think it's the best way to wear
       the headgear for a long period of time without having to hide
       away wearing it all through the day.
       I'm desperate to find a forward pulling headgear that works!
       Seen a number of studies showing the benefits. Theres one with
       monkeys where they wore it for 24 hours a day, and after 3months
       their wisdom teeth erupted.
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       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 25, 2016, 5:45 am
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       Yep! I'm on the same road
       However, I will wait until next year to start my facepulling
       journey. I need to expand my palate first and save money to have
       some things designed
       I tell you this because there is not a facepulling device
       already designed to fit our needs so we have to throw money to
       have a custom design that meets our expectations
       #Post#: 1255--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 25, 2016, 6:55 am
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       Ah right okay, so expand first then bring the expanded palate
       forward?
       That seems doable, im concerned that if I don't do the two at
       the same time I will develop worse facial features. Is it
       possible for as the palate to expand it comes forward by itself?
       #Post#: 1258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 25, 2016, 7:30 am
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       Your palate will only expand in the transverse plane; it will
       not move forward or backward
  HTML http://training.seer.cancer.gov/images/anatomy/body/planes.jpg
       How can it worsen your facial features? You will only get a bit
       broader face over time and a more balanced head
       #Post#: 1260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 25, 2016, 7:39 am
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       Ah I understand, I meant because I have a good side which is
       tight and forward and a bad side which is down and set back that
       when it expands it starts to match the looser side and not the
       tighter side. If that makes sense
       #Post#: 1261--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 25, 2016, 7:51 am
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       I also have a bad side and a good side
       and the good side has a way more wider arch. I doubt that when
       my bad side gets to be as wide the other will melt for some
       reason
       I dont know about yours, but it's probably the same
       #Post#: 1262--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 25, 2016, 8:50 am
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       I think my good side has a wider arch but the angle of it is
       like pushing the bad side down and making the teeth crowded.
       Yeah you're right I think with more space everything will just
       even out better.
       #Post#: 1264--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: Improvement
       Date: July 25, 2016, 2:26 pm
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       Same here, my right side is taking some space from the left, and
       it looks out of the center
       After some expansion, a gap will open between them to fit
       properly
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       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 25, 2016, 7:54 pm
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       Glad we're on the same wavelength then! Ive realised that the
       pain ive been having in my jaw and temple is probably it moving
       into a new position and is actually a sign of the upper palate
       expanding rather than just the teeth moving
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       Re: Reverse pull headgear 
   DIR By: MJON
       Date: July 26, 2016, 11:46 am
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       Forgot to ask, do you have your wisdom teeth improvement? I
       haven't had mine through and I think that's the problem
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