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       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: QuantumLookMaxer Date: June 22, 2016, 6:08 pm
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       Yeah, I'm not really advocating everything that guy talked about
       on the forum either. I don't believe its a good idea to pull
       with a high degree of force (like the usage of your body weight
       to exert a pulling force on the jaw). Ultimately, I don't even
       think this is about pulling the bones in the face, but more
       about stimulating the muscles that lead to better facial
       development, and pulling adds resistance to strengthen and break
       down the muscle fibers. Therefore, you shouldn't pull any more
       than is necessary to give your muscles a good stimulus.
       However, as Monarch mentioned earlier in the posts, I now feel
       that chewing with the far back molars are the absolute most
       important aspect of good facial development. After doing these
       exercises for a little while now, I've come to the realization
       that the muscles associated with the chewing action of the back
       molars were very weak. I had made a habit to chew almost
       exclusively with my front (anterior) molars rather than the back
       (posterior) molars. Now, certain muscles on my mandible are
       starting to get stimulated and are starting to grow. My face is
       starting to widen, and I am reaching Johnny Depp levels of
       aesthetics. In short, I am slowly becoming a god.
       I encourage you guys to try this at your own pace. Pay attention
       to your body, if the muscles are sore its a good thing, but if
       its super painful the next day then its a bad thing. Don't over
       exert yourself. 1-2x a week with about 5-7 short intervals of
       chewing/pulling is the way to go.
       Its about health guys, aesthetics are nothing more than a
       pleasant side effect of all of this. My breathing and posture
       turned to shit after a round of orthodontics, and I'm just
       trying to fix what the orthodontists had wronged. I've been also
       thinking of the importance of my Jaw's range of motion and its
       importance towards optimal breathing. It seems to me that its
       important for one to have the ability to open their mouth WIDE
       so that the airways can be free and open.
       #Post#: 1138--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: jamo716 Date: June 23, 2016, 7:33 pm
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       [quote author=James link=topic=161.msg1135#msg1135
       date=1466469327]
       I checked out that link to that forum as well, that guy looks
       pretty strange, also the jist of the thread is that he won't
       post any photos of his face that match the position of his face
       in the original before photo, he keeps doing this weird pouty
       smile face that obviously excentuates his check bones, some
       people are even saying that he may have acromegaly which is a
       disorder of the pituitary gland that causes the bones of the
       body to grow larger than normal resulting in a bigger head ect.
       my own personal interest in these things is more from a general
       wellbeing viewpoint better flow of cerebrospinal fluid better
       posture better spinal health more balanced body clearer mind
       ect, I find all the cosmetic stuff kind of depressing, striving
       for that perfect face is a fools game in my opinion.
       [/quote]
       I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called
       me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also
       been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my
       after before:
  HTML http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp
       Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.
       I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.
       #Post#: 1139--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: monarch Date: June 24, 2016, 7:55 pm
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       Do you have any photos of your face from the side? I think a
       good indicator of your maxilla moving is the tip of the nose
       pointing more up (seen from the side) and the mandible coming
       forward.
       #Post#: 1140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: QuantumLookMaxer Date: June 25, 2016, 10:39 pm
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       [quote author=jamo716 link=topic=161.msg1138#msg1138
       date=1466728421]
       I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called
       me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also
       been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my
       after before:
  HTML http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp
       Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.
       I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your
       conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the
       selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results!
       Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.
       #Post#: 1141--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: jamo716 forgot to login Date: June 25, 2016, 11:40 pm
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       [quote author=QuantumLookMaxer link=topic=161.msg1140#msg1140
       date=1466912399]
       [quote author=jamo716 link=topic=161.msg1138#msg1138
       date=1466728421]
       I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called
       me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also
       been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my
       after before:
  HTML http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp
       Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.
       I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your
       conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the
       selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results!
       Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.
       [/quote]
       Most of the information you need is in the lookism thread. Him
       and I agree that using your knees is the most effective way to
       get the job done. I actually got a very large luggage strap
       which is much more durable than your average belt. Since it is
       so long, I can use my legs fully extended to apply pressure.
       I've been experimenting with two-stage pulling sessions. First I
       gently pull the maxilla forward. I apply virtually no upward
       force. Then I switch to pulling almost completely vertically.
       When you pull upward you can apply way more pressure than
       forward I have found. I find the gentle pulling forward loosens
       the maxilla (yes you can actually feel it) and then the upward
       motion compacts it along with the other structures it drags
       along. I've been slowing down the last few days because I have a
       really bad canker sore (1 inch long!) that is causing my entire
       mouth to hurt, but other than that, steady progress! Good lucks
       guys and if you want to get into contact with me I guess just
       leave a reply or PM me.
       #Post#: 1142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: nobody Date: June 26, 2016, 3:53 pm
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       I've ended up with a pretty similar technique, but for the warm
       up session I use a towel. Biting on a towel with all teeth and
       pulling forward feels much better and effective than pulling
       forward with just a belt and back molars. I believe it is also
       closer to the natural function of jaws, very similar to ripping
       meat / skin off a dead animal. But the belt is still a good tool
       for generating good amount of upwards force. It may be helpful
       to keep the ends of the belt quite apart from each other so that
       the pulling motion widens the palate towards the sides too,
       instead of pulling just upwards.
       Thanks for the OP for this thread and those links. I've been
       mewing since January with barely noticeable results, but for the
       last week I've been facepulling with intense short bursts of
       force and I've been able to feel how my bite gets a little
       better every day. Today I noticed that I can now see the edges
       of my cheekbones with my eyes when I look to the sides. For the
       first time of my life too , since I was put on retractive
       orthodontics at a very young age. I wonder if an optimal maxilla
       position would enable one to see his chin too just by looking
       down.
       As much as I hate to romanticizing things, I can't help thinking
       we truly are pioneers of something new (or old, depending on how
       you approach the dilemma of modern recessive faces). It looks
       like the science of facial aesthetics is just on the verge of
       making a breakthrough on the internet. People in many online
       communities are beginning to get results, I hope in a few years
       of time there will be plenty of progress pictures to make
       facepulling look more legit. Considering how outlandish this
       method is inevitably going to seem to the average person, well
       documented evidence is certainly needed. I will definitely post
       my before/afters if the changes end up being remarkable enough.
       #Post#: 1143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: W Date: June 27, 2016, 8:09 am
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       Hi,
       I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and
       improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen
       (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting
       down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could
       keep the teeth in contact.
       Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get
       random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents
       which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure
       feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it
       right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by
       the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally?
       Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening,
       somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my
       left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.
       Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??
       #Post#: 1144--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: Gucci Gang Date: June 27, 2016, 10:32 am
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       [quote author=W link=topic=161.msg1143#msg1143 date=1467032957]
       Hi,
       I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and
       improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen
       (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting
       down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could
       keep the teeth in contact.
       Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get
       random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents
       which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure
       feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it
       right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by
       the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally?
       Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening,
       somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my
       left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.
       Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??
       [/quote]I dont know what to tell you, maybe youre mouth
       breathing.
       Just keep on doing it and mew, make sure your mouth is closed
       while you are sleeping, doung this loosens the bones.
       #Post#: 1145--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: jamo716 Date: June 27, 2016, 12:12 pm
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       Since you started a few days ago your bones and sutures may be
       so loose that you're experiencing temporary enlivenment (?) In
       the long term, proper oral posture + pulling should only shorten
       the face. Also, yes, generally you want to pull upward and
       forwards to get the best result. If you have a longer face,
       focus on the vertical force.
       #Post#: 1146--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Chewing with Incisors
       By: W Date: June 27, 2016, 2:04 pm
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       Thanks for your replies.   Much appreciated!
       Gucci- I've been mewing for a year with some slight
       improvement..But, there's still not enough room for my whole
       tongue to go flat against the palate, on both sides.  My local
       orthodontist only offers removable appliances to children,
       according to their website.  But, they offer Damon or Invisalign
       to adults, so I may try whichever one can widen my dental
       arches.  You're right- I should also tape my mouth shut before I
       sleep!
       Jamo- I hope you're right and it's just my face adjusting! The
       sclera doesn't always show under my right iris. So it could be
       my posture, that's off.  The sclera always shows a little bit
       under my left iris, though.  My whole face is asymmetrical,
       really.  Want to continue face pulling...Hope I start to feel
       pressure in my cheekbones, soon.
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