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DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 20, 2016, 10:07 am
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EVERYONE WHO COMES TO THIS FORUM, WATCH OUT. YOU ARE DOING
SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HARM YOUR BODY, AND JUST
BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS A PH.D OR STARTS A WEB SITE, DOESN'T MEAN
THAT THEY HAVE PERFECT KNOWLEDGE.
I was taken for a ride years ago when I started this NCR /
face-pulling thing. Like many of you, I read claims on the
Internet that NCR and face-pulling would make my life better and
give me a more powerful consciousness.
Well, my life has NOT miraculously improved thanks to NCR /
face-pulling.
Now my jaw HURTS because I pulled too hard, because I had NO
idea what I was doing.
I can't stop anyone from face-pulling / performing dangerous
procedures on themselves. But you are taking your life into your
own hands, and might die if something goes wrong.
I almost died performing NCR on myself. This is not exaggeration
- it is the factual truth. A balloon expanded in my throat and
nearly choked me, but I fortunately had a pair of scissors handy
to stop it from happening. Do you want something to go wrong
too, and then you choke to death on a balloon??
THINK ABOUT IT.
The owner of this forum, Ben - he already let his actual web
site expire. I doubt he is still around. But HE got hoodwinked
too.
We should NOT be performing this kind of procedure (NCR) on
ourselves! How many have died, but we just don't hear about it?
Already hundreds of people might have come to this forum, tried
out NCR on themselves, and then died because of one small
slip-up.
At least in a doctor's room, he has got tools to rescue us if
something goes wrong. Inside of your own bathroom, it is just
YOU and your self as you lay doomed - choking to death.
Somebody sue me. Take me to court and throw me in jail. Because
I probably deserve it. Whatever it takes - just STOP performing
this procedure on yourselves!!
#Post#: 998--------------------------------------------------
Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: CatherineF
Date: February 20, 2016, 11:06 am
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Hmmm actually I think that you are part right/part wrong.
I did perform NCR procedure few times on myself and it is true
that it can be dangerous - baloon can slip and it can have
terrible consequences. I don't do this anymore because of this
fear but I also know that I am losing an opportunity of a really
well-working therapy - I am from Poland and I can't afford going
to UK regulary to take sessions of NCR so I didn't even start
because I know i won't have money. But sometimes my life is so
miserable that I think that I would risk it to improve...
As far as face-pulling is concerned - I think that it can only
be dangerous if you pull REALLY TOO HARD. It is virtually
impossible to hurt yourself if you follow Plato's instruction -
which clearly states: pull lightly. Although I am not sure
whether face-pulling works without NCR and that's a shame :(
In my opinion the best thing to do when someone had extraction
orthodontics performed and suffers from its implications is
regaining spaces and putting there those missing teeth. It can
help tremendously and I am striving for it - to persuade my
ortho to do this (so far he is only treating my retracted
mandible - deep bite with quite good effects on TMJ but only on
it).
#Post#: 999--------------------------------------------------
Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 20, 2016, 11:48 am
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I'm glad you wrote that, because it reminded me about a point.
Plato did write clearly to pull gently. But I wrote here in this
forum to pull hard.
I was misled, and confused about why I felt nothing when I
pulled gently or forcefully. Later I found out that my body has
just been insensible, which caused me to feel no sensations.
Please excuse me for causing a controversy, but I am afraid for
other people like me who are desperate for a solution, and then
after reading all of those blogs about these kinds of
procedures, comes to assume that there must be some kind of
blissful euphoria involved as a sign that it is working.
I found out, some people DON'T experience that. So I've been
trying to clean up my posts from here, trying to be responsible
so others don't attempt to recreate my mistakes.
I don't want somebody to get hurt just because I was a foolish
and reckless young man who didn't understand the possible
consequences of his actions.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 25, 2016, 2:54 pm
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Thank you, thank you!
Your rational and reasonable comments are joyously received.
Please allow me to now comment again, as I have pardoned myself
from my Schuld here.
The reality is, very probably, that gently face-pulling has
benefited me in some ways.
I was misled by myself into pulling on my face very hard,
because I was desperate and impatient to be granted the alleged
life-altering promises that have been lauded in various blogs in
the Internet.
I did hurt myself here - at least a bit it seems. Not in a
life-threatening way, mind you, but now and then I do detect
some wisp of an ache in my bone-matter.
But I was totally and completely responsible for spreading THAT
particular method of face-pulling. Not Plato or Ben or anybody
else are responsible.
Since this place seems to be much less active, I have worried
extremely about the folks who may yet be coming through on the
same path as I took.
And so, the notion that some may have read my disastrous advice
and, naively, believed it to be some kind of sign . . . and then
potentially hurt themselves .. had made me very worried and full
of angst that I tried to make right again.
But now I ... tentatively suppose that I have done what I could,
so I sincerely hope that no more folks who cannot yet track down
the turth inside of themselves will hurt themselves as I nearly
did due to my insensible body at the time.
And what is alluded to here überhaupt, is that some folks will
not experience the flood of endorphins in their body when they
perform this gentle activity. Some folks, such as myself, will
experience no sensations from the body that it is working -
however this is not any indicator that anybody must pull harder
as I did, because as I have learned doing so, while not
life-threatening, can put some soreness into the bones.
And that, frankly, appears to be against the Zweck of achieving
greater physical development.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 25, 2016, 3:05 pm
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Oh, you've removed your post now ... Understandable from me,
when I consider my own actions in the past.
Well, my Ziel was only to set out to warn people against hurting
themsevles. I suppose that I've succeeded in that, so I'm
tentatively relieved.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Ryan
Date: February 26, 2016, 4:39 am
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Hi Tyler
It's very sympathetic of you that you feel responsible for
things you wrote on the forum , in the sense you feel
responsible for the possible negative effects it may have on
people. I only do light face pulling and i've been to a NCR
specialist for a treatment, because I actually did not really
like the idea of floating up things inside such a location as
with NCR thought I could first try a professional and do face
pulling and see where these results may lead. I think it's good
to inform people about not performing things in the wrong way on
them self, but also not to make them so scared they wont even
dare to do such thing as light facepulling. I think people can
get a little healthier overall from facepulling if their maxilla
is really backwards and down. Most of those people (including
myself) are pale and since my light face pullign, I've gotten
more color on my face, which to me is a clear indicator that at
least that part is beneficial for my overall health. Overall the
results of my facepulling for only 2 weeks make me look
healthier already. I slowly return to the way i once looked
before I had retainers.
You said you still do light face pulling. May I ask why you
still perform light face pulling? From your posts and pictures
it seemed you got results pretty fast, and if its years later
now, and you still face pull, does it mean you still get results
from it? Does your maxilla still move forward more? I ask this
because I'm curious if and when that point comes when your body
does not want your maxilla to go forward any more, or whether
can you basicly continue to do light face pulling until your
maxilla is located extremely high and forward. I'm not sure if
that is really desirable, as most things in nature are best when
in a balance and not an extreme either way.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 26, 2016, 2:51 pm
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Greeting again, only in a different simultaneous conservation it
seems!
I'm glad to meet another man who has been successful such as
yourself.
Today I was getting introduced to my own success in the mirror,
and I saw and felt that there really are improvements.
To me there appears to be minor damage done overall, and if I am
very depressed on one particular occasion, then my face can and
does return to slacking off.
But the actual improvement when I am feeling uplifted from any
sort of depression for any brief length of time is pretty
awesome to see and to feel inside of my personality.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 26, 2016, 2:58 pm
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Pardon me, since I became side-tracked in my own train of
thought.
Your question was how has light face-pulling further affected
me?
The reality is, I only pull with my thumbs, and I am my body is
insensible - so I just cannot feel exactly what I am causing to
take place.
I have felt along the area where a line appears when I make a
certain smile - and only when standing in front of certain
directional sources of light. I cannot detect any lines in the
bone itself.
I had forgotten about this all, until today when I connected to
... something ... again.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 26, 2016, 2:59 pm
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The actual appearance is more beautiful. That is sure pleasant
and pleasing.
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ
DIR By: Tyler
Date: February 26, 2016, 3:00 pm
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Thank you. Now I feel straightened out, so I can tell people the
true, positive facts - since I think I can say now that I've
combined the positive and the negative in equal balance
together.
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