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       #Post#: 976--------------------------------------------------
       Upper palate curves down slightly - causes low mouth and longer
       philtrum? Face pulling.
   DIR By: ThinkItChangeIt
       Date: December 6, 2015, 4:11 pm
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       Hi everyone. Hope you're well!
       This thread is about face pulling. Getting that maxilla up and
       forward in the face. I have followed the work of the almighty
       Mike Mew and took on his advice about putting the tongue up in
       the palate and pushing up. I had braces when I was younger and
       I'm sure I had a palate expander before the train tracks. I'm
       glad that I didn't have any extractions! Anyway, my tongue fits
       up in my palate, even better now after having it up there for
       some months. I think my tongue has expanded the palate
       naturally. When I first began putting my tongue up in the
       palate, it was difficult. It was very tiring because of course I
       wasn't used to it. Over time I began moving my tongue further
       and further back up in the mouth. This brought the lips in,
       which they adapted to over time. I now push the palate up with
       the whole my tongue. Pushing up with the back of the tongue is
       very important. I've also improved my neck posture so my neck is
       pretty much fully straight instead of curved. Now I don't always
       keep this posture because it makes me look like I have even less
       of a jaw. But pushing the maxilla with the tongue feels a lot
       more powerful with correct neck posture.
       Something that I have noticed with my upper palate is that it
       curves downwards. I don't think this is right. It should be
       straighter. I think having a palate that curves down is what
       creates a longer philtrum. Does anyone know if this is true?
       Anyway, as my tongue is as far back as possible and pushing up.
       The tongue is not pushing the front part of the curved down
       palate just before the upper front teeth. The tip of my tongue
       finishes just before it starts curving slightly down.
       I've attached some pictures to show you...
       Here is a picture of a skull. Notice the straight palate. It
       even curves slightly upwards.
  HTML http://imgur.com/UP9mDob
       Here is a picture of the inside of a mouth. Notice the longer,
       straighter palate.
  HTML http://imgur.com/XaOeRf9
       Here is a picture of Angelina Jolie. I presume that she has a
       straighter upper palate. Maxilla is up and in front, which lifts
       the mouth and nose.
  HTML http://imgur.com/1p2ajqk
       Now here is a picture of some guy with a maxilla that is down
       and back. I presume his upper palate might be slightly curved.
       Notice how he tilts his head, which creates a sloped forehead.
       Also look how far his mouth drops down in the image where I
       turned his head to the correct position. Also how his nose drops
       down too, making him look like he has a big, bumpy nose. If his
       maxilla was up and forward, his nose would look way better.
  HTML http://imgur.com/rckDQTn
       Here is a skull I photoshopped to make the palate curve down.
       Yeah I know it's crappy!
  HTML http://imgur.com/ikPdYd4
       Here is the image before photoshop...
  HTML http://www.heilpraktikerholzkirchen.de/files/naturheilpraxis/img/Fotolia_57717609_XS.jpg
       This is where I think face pulling needs to be done. Pulling up
       from where the palate curves. Maybe it will straighten out? If
       what i'm saying is true. This means that using the tongue alone
       won't change everything. It might push the maxilla up slightly
       but you're still going to have that long philtrum and bumpy nose
       if you have one. Let me know what your thoughts are on this! Is
       what i'm saying correct? I could be totally wrong. Check your
       palates. Do they curve down slightly?
       Thanks for reading!
       #Post#: 985--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Upper palate curves down slightly - causes low mouth and
       longer philtrum? Face pulling.
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: January 8, 2016, 7:16 am
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       Hi ThinkItChangeIt,
       I think you're right when it comes to the correlation between
       the  the shape of the palate and the shape of the face. I think
       for this reason it is harder to push the tongue up for people
       who has  a maxilla that is down and back, because it feels the
       tounge does not naturally fit well there. I'm not sure which
       came first, as the chicken and the egg concept. Do people
       without the right palate, not push their tongue up or do people
       who do not put their tongue up not get the right palate? I think
       they're both possible, because one relates to the other. If you
       were born having the 'right' shape of your skull, then
       apparently then there had to be a reason why you stopped doing
       that, and if you were born with possibily something like a
       nutricient deficiency (like K2 deficiency) then possibly your
       basic shape was already not right to begin with, which then
       resulted slowly in an even more down and backwards placement of
       the maxilla. So basicly I think you're definately on to
       something there, which is worth investigating more! Good work!
       Greets,
       Ryan
       #Post#: 986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Upper palate curves down slightly - causes low mouth and
       longer philtrum? Face pulling.
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: January 8, 2016, 7:18 am
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       IS the way you push your tongue up, by pressing the top of young
       tonge into that sort of hollow side , halfway in your mouth? Can
       you explain more in detail how you put it there and how you push
       #Post#: 987--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Upper palate curves down slightly - causes low mouth and
       longer philtrum? Face pulling.
   DIR By: Ryan
       Date: January 11, 2016, 7:59 am
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       Check out this video from Mike Mew. Look at the picture int he
       background. You can see you are right!
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9OqEd5z1k
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