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CHAPTER 5: THINGS ARE TAKING A TURN FOR THE WORSE ON THE FARM
By: Mayorcitobookworm Date: December 28, 2015, 10:30 am
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[font=comic sans ms]The chapter reveals some of the ways in
which dictators, like Stalin and Hitler, come to Power. One
method that dictators use to maintain power is to control the
way people think. Napoleon uses squealer to "explain" and
"justify" his actions to the animals. What are the ways in which
Squealer persuades the animals that "Napoleon is always right"
?[/font]
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By: Julio Cesar Tapara Tejada Date: December 28, 2015, 12:13 pm
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Initially, Squealer expresses himself on a persuasive way
appealing to arguments that consider that Napoleon’s decisions
have to be observed as a “sacrifice in order to get better the
farm’s situation” (“trust that every animal here appreciates the
sacrifice that Comrade Napoleon has made in taking this extra
labour upon himself”), at the same time that defames to snowball
with the modification of past events (“And as to the Battle of
the Cowshed, I believe the time will come when we shall find
that Snowball's part in it was much exaggerated.”). However,
when he observes that the animals are not completely convinced,
he appeals to an artifice that is amply effective because of the
effect that it causes on the animals: the fear (this can be
observed in the unanswerable expression mentioned by Squealer
almost at the end of his discourse: “Surely, comrades, you do
not want Jones back?”). In this sense, this chapter is utile to
show us a remarkable feature of the Stalin’s government in the
Russia of the Orwell’s time, period in which the opinions and
claims of the population were stopped through the memories of a
past time.
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By: Arianna Date: December 28, 2015, 7:01 pm
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Squealer persuades the animals of the farm in different forms
because He sympathise with Napoleon and he thinks that his
opinion is always right. In first place he tried to convince the
animals talking with them about the "Sacrifice of their Comrade
Napoleon" and his participation in the Battle of Cowshed, but he
didn't appreciate Snowball's participation and he also minimize
it. But when Squealer saw that the others weren't convinced at
all he made unanswerable questions so in that way the others
couldn't say nothing more. Also, Squealer excuses Napoleon for
Snowball's expulsion and he said that it's correct because he
was a lier that copy the idea of the windmill. So, we can see
that Squealer is a good example of the capacity of some
political leaders as Hitler or Stalin of Orwel's time to
persuade people and convince them that their actions are correct
and make them to persuade other people and protect them with
excuses and appreciations, so, in this way people can't have
their own thoughts.
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By: Miriam Odar Alvarado Date: December 29, 2015, 12:45 pm
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Squealer use the word to persuade at all the animals, first
Squealer said after the expulsion of Snowball that Napoleon did
a sacrifice when he had the power for himself, because is very
difficult:"I trust that every animal here appreciates the
sacrifice that Comrade Napoleon has made in taking this extra
labour upon himself. Do not imagine, comrades, that leadership
is a pleasure", also that Snowball was a criminal that only had
courage for the Battle of the Cowshed and what he was needed was
loyalty, obedience and discipline, likewise Squealer to justify
the construction of the windmill said that all this was tactics
and the animals accept all the words of Squealer for the
persuasion that had him and for the fear at the dogs that raised
Napoleon.Therefore this chapter reflect the non-aggression pact
between Hitler and Stalin like the union of Squealer and
Napoleon to get the power.
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By: Emerson Castañeda Date: December 30, 2015, 11:15 am
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If good is true, Squealer as faithful to Napoleon he has the
work of persuade to the other animals of the farm. Then Squealer
use some factors, such as the unanswerable arguments that
transmit the fear of a bad handling of the system that it would
produce the return from Jones and with it the abuses and early
deaths("Surely, comrades, you do not want Jones back?'"). In the
same way, Squealer through of the ignorance search tries to
convince that Napoleon did a heroic act to be the leader of
"animal farm"(has made in taking this extra labor upon himself).
On the other hand, Squealer is supported in the frightening dogs
(Squealer spoke so persuasively, and the three dogs who happened
to be with him growled so threateningly). In such a way at
manipulate the past events it give the printout of that Squealer
is in the truth.
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By: Karen Escarcena Date: December 30, 2015, 12:11 pm
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Squealer uses various ways to convince the animals that Napoleon
is the best leader and the only animal that can give them a
better life. First, Squealer said that Napoleon makes a great
effort to be a leader because this position involves great
responsibility. Then when the animals say that Snowball had an
admirable courage in the Battle of the Cowshed, Squealer said is
not as important as loyalty and obedience. Also, Squealer to
justify the expulsion of Snowball, he says this is just because
Snowball stole the plans for the windmill and therefore a leader
can not be a thief. Finally, Squealer uses fear of animals to
the human figure to convince the barn that "Napoleon is always
right". Thus, Orwell uses Squealer to investigate the ways of
how language can twist truth and maintain a political and social
control in a society.
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By: Luis Gabriel Cochachin Aguilar Date: December 30, 2015, 3:53
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Squealer shows his fidelity to Napoleon, because always argued
that Napoleon everything he does is for the good of the farm. In
addition, questions Squealer makes the other animals, in order
to create fear in them, "Surely, comrades, do you not want Jones
back?. Also, it takes advantage of the ignorance of other
animals, to manipulate, pretending that Snowball was a traitor
and that Napoleon realized that and for this reason should be
respected. This chapter shows how Squealer and Napoleon together
take control of the farm, for their own benefits.
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By: Shannen Calixtro Date: December 30, 2015, 8:19 pm
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First, when Squealer gave the communique to the others animals,
he did it in a persuasive way. Because with his gestures and
arguments he achieved to convince them. In addition, Squealer
utilize lies againts Snowball, calling him criminal and
underestimating the efforts that he made to maintain the farm.
Likewise, Squealer resorted to impose fear in the animals in two
occasions: the first when Squealer said: “Surely, comrades, you
do not want Jones back?”, this phrase did think to animals that
they didn´t want to Jones back, so they must be obedient all as
Napoleon said. And the second, when he was explaining about the
agreements and he has the troupe if the dogs, who impose fear
thus avoiding possible protests or doubts.
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By: Fernando Luna Date: December 31, 2015, 2:40 pm
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Squealer always justify to Napoleon with the reason, be the
leadership is a deep and heavy responsibility. Also, Squealer
says to the other animals anyone wants to Jones comeback. Puting
to Snowball such as a traitor animal. Taking advantage over all
the ignorance of the other animals, and talking with words
unknow, "Tactics, comrades, tactics", and concluding that
"Napoleon is always right".
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By: Kimberly Perez Date: December 31, 2015, 8:50 pm
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he animals are being persuaded by Squeler that Napoleon is the
best leader that can lead to a life mejor.Primero Squeler says
Napoleon makes a great effort; because being a leader you have
many responsibilities. After the Napoleon said to have loyalty
and therefore obedience. Finally Squeler used the fear of
animals to convince them that Napoleon knows all, he is always
right and the ability to solve problems. Therefore Squeler
Orwell used to maintain political and social control on the farm
;) ;) ;) ;)
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