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       Expansion Discussion - Rediscover DF
       By: Kalanna Dae Date: August 8, 2015, 10:28 pm
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       So... now that we're a couple weeks in, here's my question: are
       we still interested in expanding this to somewhere more public?
       To review, here's the PM I sent to Melissa, and her response
       back:
       [quote]Hello Melissa,
       I believe we’ve met before but to reintroduce myself just in
       case, I’m Kalanna, and I am currently one of the Captains for
       the Beacons of Hope.
       As a clan we are currently working on a new initiative that we
       are currently calling Rediscover Dragonfable. While we have not
       started yet, we are already hoping that we can expand it to both
       DF GD community and other AE games. I am currently heading this
       up, working with my fellow Beacons to determine where we want to
       go with this initiative.
       The currently stated goals of the initiative are:
       a)To assist old players returning to Dragonfable in catching up
       to the current storyline
       b)To reacquaint longtime players with Dragonfable by creating
       new characters and playing through the game together as a
       community
       As far as formatting goes, for part A, we hope to work with
       players to set up a combination of help threads as well as
       institute a buddy system to help players connect outside of the
       forums. For part B, we want to break the DF storyline into parts
       that would be played weekly or maybe biweekly. We would like to
       have chat rooms that are open for people to chat together as
       they play, as well as discussion threads. While we are still
       determining IRC rooms, currently the proposed threads are as
       follows:
       1. Rediscover Initiative - Catch Up: Help Thread
       Description: Stuck on a quest? We’re here to help! Post your
       question and someone will get back to you soon!
       2. Rediscover Initiative - Catch Up: Buddy System Sign Up
       Description: Want a veteran player to help you catch up! Check
       here to find players to chat and play with!
       3. Rediscover Initiative - Catch Up: IRC Open Floor Times
       Description: Check here for times when veteran players will be
       in the designated IRC chat room to answer questions, help you
       play, or just chat with!
       4. Rediscover Initiative - Play Through: Discussion
       Description: Finish this week’s quest assignments? Come on in!
       5. Rediscover Initiative - Play Through: Quest Assignments
       Description: Check here for this week quests assignments or, if
       you’ve missed a week, find old assignments from past weeks.
       6. Rediscover Initiative - Play Through: Find a Partner
       Looking for someone to play this week’s assignment with? Check
       here for others who are looking for the same. Remember IRC is a
       great chat client!
       

       While we are hopefully starting this initiative within the clan
       within the next couple weeks, we would like to make a post in
       the DF GD to see if any other DF players would like to join us.
       However, after seeing how some suggested player-run initiatives
       have been met by both the DF staff and the AKs, we would like to
       run this by you first for both approval and feedback.
       Introducing the number of threads we hope to have is probably
       very tricky for the staff, and the concept of IRC rooms and
       private player interactions make moderation extremely difficult.
       While we would be disappointed if the forum staff do not believe
       this to be reasonable for the AEF, I believe we would also
       understand why, having seen some suggested initiatives in the
       past.
       I would like to finish by adding that the overall goal of this
       beyond our two goals is to both rekindle interest in Dragonfable
       and create an opportunity for DF players to grow together as a
       community, and I hope the forum staff can understand that.
       Sincerely,
       KalannaDae  [/quote]
       [quote]Hi Kalanna,
       Sorry for the late response. I was very busy IRL and didn't have
       enough time to sit still long enough to give you a reply that
       was warranted for such a well thought-out initiative.
       Your ideas are indeed wonderful and shows the level of
       thoughtfulness that the Beacons have always been known for.
       However, there are problems that interfere with such good
       intentions. I will list the issues that arise from such a plan
       and then list a few alternatives that could be considered for
       your plan.
       1.) Since DF is a single-player game, it's difficult to be able
       to walk someone through gameplay. It's not as easy to do as it
       is with an MMO game where players can play side by side.
       2.) As much as the Beacons are respected and well-known, I
       cannot give them any special privileges or areas of the forums
       in which they can carry out the ideas that you have listed. If
       that is done, then just about every other active clan will want
       the same rights, privileges and areas. With such limited
       resources and forum staff, this makes it impossible, sadly.
       There are also some things that the BoH can actively pursue and
       participate in. Not only the GD, but there's also the
       Q&A/EC/BS/Pedia and Guides sections of the DF forums that they
       can volunteer to help other players in. The Pedia and Guides
       sections are always needing more help. Particularly the Guides
       section. There are many guides that are out of date or haven't
       even been implemented yet by other players. It's worth the time
       to look into and discuss between yourselves what anyone is
       capable of donating their time towards.
       I also recommend using programs like Skype for real time
       interaction with other players. Twitch for streaming and youtube
       for showing quest run-throughs. Youtube in particular is a great
       tool for showing newbies how to get a good start on the game.
       You might also want to open up your own forum and dedicate a new
       section/subforum that could be dedicated solely for players who
       are not in your clan/alliances. Also, since the BoH is actively
       using IRC now - you can dedicate certain days/times for other
       players to join in. You could even start a new channel soley for
       that purpose.
       There are many ways to achieve your goals. I'm sorry that we
       cannot open the forums more for your project, but there is much
       creativity in the BoH and I'm positive that everyone can make it
       work with a little creative thinking!
       If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask!
       M4B  [/quote]
       So at this point in time, we can't bring RDF to the AEF in its
       current form. Of course, the question is, do we even want to
       bring this to others?
       Personally, I would love to bring other AE players into this.
       Going off of Melissa's PM, while I'm not comfortable expanding
       our own forums to the possible number of players that could
       join, I'd be interested in creating our own RDF (or even RAE)
       createaforum site, that we could invite others to. We could talk
       to Melissa and see how much support we could expect from forum
       staff, and use our sigs and PMs to spread the word.
       Of course, this is my dream. But what does everyone else think?
       #Post#: 9349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Expansion Discussion - Rediscover DF
       By: Starflame Date: August 9, 2015, 10:48 am
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       I think it would be a good idea to try with the RPG games (MMOs
       like AQW are either too complicated for a larger group, or don't
       need the help).
       I also agree if we try to spread it to the forums, we'd need to
       use a different on specifically for RAE. Just saying, this would
       take a LOT of extra work, just as admin, to organize and
       moderate. Especially if we got a lot of members from AE to join.
       It might be a good idea to also use a non-premium chatzy
       room/link, where we can set a certain time each week where
       someone will be there if anyone has a questions for that weeks
       session. The reason I suggest Chaztzy over others is a lot of
       people may be uncomfortable using skype and having their voices
       heard/being seen, even if that's not necessary. Also, if this
       DOES take off and we get a lot of people, Chatzy doesn't have to
       deal with all the registration, nor do we need the
       safety/password provided by IRC.
       To summarize, creating RAE forums would be awesome but take a
       LOT of work, and I think Chatzy would work better than skype or
       IRC for access/
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