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       #Post#: 1889--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: Bla Date: September 6, 2013, 4:40 pm
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       [quote author=b-ong link=topic=48.msg1875#msg1875
       date=1378402032]
       hmm, but then if we have battle like sunday 19:00 then the next
       week we can't have it at sunday 19:00 again we'd have to wait
       will sunday 19:30.
       so can we have it like 1 week - 1 hour?
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       I would say no, that makes the rule unnecessarily complex when
       you already have to agree on a time. Your motivation to start
       the battle a bit earlier could be so you'll have one week from
       that point where you don't have to battle that enemy, I forgot
       about that, so putting battles exactly one week apart could
       still happen if people actually wanted to.
       [hr]
       There currently are no weapon ristrictions, but you shouldn't
       spawn a wither, because you can't control what it damages and
       you may end up damaging other zones.
       What do people think about DeathChest? Should we allow it in the
       battles? Otherwise, the battle may pretty much be determined by
       who dies first, because if you lose all your good gear the game
       is pretty much over. If lava is involved losing good gear may
       not be very fun either.
       We could also set ristrictions on the weapons/armor allowed,
       such as only unenchanted iron armor and unenchanted bows,
       arrows, iron swords, TNT, lava buckets, fire charges... Possibly
       other items.
       Ender eyes should probably be banned, because they'd make
       teleporting to the flag or getting into the base too easy.
       I think actually setting these ristrictions and allowing
       DeathChests could make the battles much more fun. If people are
       less afraid of dying, they are more likely to engage each other
       and fight instead of trying to take complex routes to avoid each
       other and such. I might implement ristrictions tomorrow unless
       people complain or something.
       #Post#: 1892--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: b-ong Date: September 6, 2013, 5:17 pm
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       i think we should at least give it a try, because for poor
       people, this wouldn't benefit them. but for rich people with
       lots of armour, nothing would deterrent them from using their
       best, as they have nothing to lose. also, this gives the
       attacker a lot more chance to win, as he can just retry and
       retry any amount of time, as he'd just get his armor back, and
       wouldn't be a bit more conscious of trying to win.
       #Post#: 1894--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: matty406 Date: September 6, 2013, 6:55 pm
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       Oh kol just as i start enchanting everything i own
       #Post#: 1897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: Bla Date: September 7, 2013, 6:55 am
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       You could still use enchanted items for PvE, and we could also
       build a PvP arena somewhere for different kinds of battles,
       where we could allow enchants and diamond and stuff.
       Updating the rules now:
       ====Item Regulations====
       To make battles more equal/skill based and less expensive,
       certain items are banned:
       *Diamond swords
       *Diamond armor
       *Enchanted weapons, tools and armor
       *Ender pearls
       *Potions
       The battling teams may use DeathChest and beds at their respawn
       points during the battle, and may not destroy enemy
       beds/DeathChests. For this reason, the respawn points should be
       located at the edge of the zone.
       Is this ok?
       #Post#: 1899--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: b-ong Date: September 7, 2013, 8:09 am
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       wtf no potions -.-
       sounds nerfed
       #Post#: 1900--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: Bla Date: September 7, 2013, 8:44 am
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       I've set up a poll for whether potions should be allowed or not.
       Please vote.
       Also, we could consider limiting the amount of TNT and possibly
       fire charges people can use pr. battle.
       #Post#: 1901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: b-ong Date: September 7, 2013, 8:57 am
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       hmm so will those things affect the battles on sunday?
       #Post#: 1902--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: Mudkipz Date: September 7, 2013, 9:03 am
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       all these restrictions seem to defeat the spirit of the
       battleground, that is to say: blacraft is a primarily pve server
       where pvp is only allowed in the battleground. Now it seems that
       pvp too is banned in the battleground, and you are only allowed
       a watered-down version of fighting.
       instead of banning items, maybe people should just come up with
       ways to counter them.
       diamond tools and weapons are banned, i'm not sure why. however,
       the argument that 'poor people' don't have them and will have
       less incentive to battle makes little sense. First of all,
       diamond tools and armor are not prohibitively expensive. with
       the end exp farm, it's almost a joke to enchant them compared to
       before. secondly, most players already do have these tools,
       active players like smjjames, yqt, bla, me, etc all have the
       diamond items and enchantmnets, so it's not a hindrance.
       enderpearls are banned because they let you get up close, but i
       think that banning them is the wrong way to handle the problem.
       why not instead surround the flag by moats of laval to make
       enderpearls a bad idea? what about strategically placed glass
       walls? I'm quite sure enderpearls can be easily defended
       against.
       i'm not sure why potions are banned, but if it's for the same
       reason as diamond tools, then the same argument applies
       unless you're worried that the tnt will kill the server, i have
       no idea why you'd want to limit tnt. do we limit the amount of
       sword strokes?
       #Post#: 1903--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: Bla Date: September 7, 2013, 9:04 am
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       It depends on whether people are for or against them. I will
       probably allow potions if it's unclear whether people want it or
       not by tomorrow.
       Maybe we should make another rule - if the people who battle for
       a zone agree not to ban some of the banned items during the
       battle, they can use them during that battle.
       #Post#: 1904--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Battleground Information
       By: yqt1001 Date: September 7, 2013, 9:31 am
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       I could see banning block breaking items, maybe. Banning other
       items though? If you want perfectly fair battles just ask
       someone outside of the battleground to fight you in iron
       everything. :P
       Potions are probably the most overpowered items though, hardly
       enchanted diamond gear, if you wanted to ban overpowered things.
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